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kerble wrote:looking forward to checking it out.

any other graphic novels of note?



Faiz

Check out Neil Gaiman.
He did a great series for Marvel called 1602 that had all the Marvel biggies in 1602.
Done really well.

kerble wrote:looking forward to checking it out.

any other graphic novels of note? I looooved Watchmen and have re-read the Dark Knight Returns maybe seven times or so (Arkham Asylum looks great which makes up for the so-so writing), but often times, I feel they fall flat. Clowes' Like a velvet Glove Cast in Iron was creepily great, but maybe too surreal. Maus was good, but not my favourite.

please advise.



Faiz

Um. A lot of the ones I really liked a long time ago probably don't hold up so well. I've gone off the medium.

I actually quite like a lot of Grant Morrison's writing (he of Arkham Asylum fame), his Doom Patrol series being wonderfully bizarre (any writer who comes up with a story entitled the Painting that ate Paris gets my vote).

There is a short Alan Moore comic called A Small Killing, which is again set in the real world and centres around the selling out and redemption of an advertising executive. It's a lot better than it sounds, honest.

You know what? I'm really struggling here. I read most of the comics that I liked when I was a teenager.

sparky wrote:

kerble wrote:looking forward to checking it out.

any other graphic novels of note? I looooved Watchmen and have re-read the Dark Knight Returns maybe seven times or so (Arkham Asylum looks great which makes up for the so-so writing), but often times, I feel they fall flat. Clowes' Like a velvet Glove Cast in Iron was creepily great, but maybe too surreal. Maus was good, but not my favourite.

please advise.



Faiz

Um. A lot of the ones I really liked a long time ago probably don't hold up so well. I've gone off the medium.

I actually quite like a lot of Grant Morrison's writing (he of Arkham Asylum fame), his Doom Patrol series being wonderfully bizarre (any writer who comes up with a story entitled the Painting that ate Paris gets my vote).

.

I forgot Grant Morrison even wrote that (Arkham Asylum). I still think he's a great writer.

-Jeremy

kerble wrote:looking forward to checking it out.

any other graphic novels of note? I looooved Watchmen and have re-read the Dark Knight Returns maybe seven times or so (Arkham Asylum looks great which makes up for the so-so writing), but often times, I feel they fall flat. Maus was good, but not my favourite.

please advise.



Faiz

OH! Now this is my area. Go for the Joe Sacco library. Palestine, Safe Area Gorazde, The Fixer.
He's a comics journalist, I'm sure you can tell from the titles what his subject matter is, and it's brilliant.

Julie Doucet, My New York Diary. She's a French Canadian and she has epilepsy - this chronicles her time living in Lincoln Heights.

Another Canadian, Chester Brown..............check out any of his graphic novels.......Ed The Happy Clown is hilarious and Louis Reil is a spectacular piece of history.

Craig Thompson's Chunky Rice and Blankets are so worth it.

Charles Burns' Black Hole is incredibly good, but I don't know if it's in graphic novel form yet.

Hmmmmmm.............PM me if you seriously want some more info. I'm a nut for this stuff.

Christopher_Dragon wrote:Check out Neil Gaiman.
He did a great series for Marvel called 1602 that had all the Marvel biggies in 1602.
Done really well.

I saw those. they looked really great, but I didn't know how well it was actually written. It made the final round of 'maybe I should get this one' last time. Superb comic-comic artwork.

Tying this to my previous inquiry, Neil Gaiman is a huge James Branch Cabel fan.

kerble wrote:

Christopher_Dragon wrote:Check out Neil Gaiman.
He did a great series for Marvel called 1602 that had all the Marvel biggies in 1602.
Done really well.

I saw those. they looked really great, but I didn't know how well it was actually written. It made the final round of 'maybe I should get this one' last time. Superb comic-comic artwork.

I have the issues.
There were only 8 of them.
I'll let you borrow them.

oucheh wrote:Faiz,

I would suggest checking out the following graphic novels

Doom Patrol: The Painting That Ate Paris
Doom Patrol: Crawling From The Wreckage

They're very dark & surreal. Basically Grant Morrison was given free reign over a faltering DC franchise super hero team and completely reimagined it. If you like Watchmen, you'll most likely those two graphic novels.

HTH

-Jeremy

Snap!

If you want some Clocker Bob style conspiracies mixed with the occult and transvestism, try The Invisibles.

And if you want something so over the top violent, funny and stylish, try Elektra: Assassin by Frank Miller and Bill Sienkiewicz. It's ace.

re: Grant Morrison

I don't think he's bad at writing, but I think he was somewhat limited by the batman franchise (it didn't surprise me, or bring anything new outside of how the characters appeared (which was awesome). but I loved the way each character had different 'word bubble' styles, very effective in creating different voices.

Frank Miller in Dark Knight excelled at giving it a fresh and utterly rewarding take on an overdone concept. the sequel was pretty shitty, though.

I'm more than happy to check out his other stuff, the Artwork in Arkham Asylum was glorious. thanks.

kerble wrote:Frank Miller in Dark Knight excelled at giving it a fresh and utterly rewarding take on an overdone concept.

I'm not really into comics, but I really enjoyed Dark Knight.