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People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:13 am
by ergo space pig_Archive
I don't go to an art school, but I do go to a school (Oberlin College) where there are plenty of art majors. And unfortunately, most of them I know of happen to be pretty rich, not very talented, and not very dedicated to what they're doing. I know art students who aren't like this, though, so I really have no idea what the norm is. Just another reason to get the fuck out of ohio I guess.
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:16 am
by Mandroid20_Archive
I attended the Corcoran College of Art and Design for Fine Art Photography for three semester back when I was 21ish. I was surprisingly not annoyed by most of my classmates, and the ones that did annoy me suffered my bluntness and honesty and usually avoided me after that.
In general, I'd agree with one of the earlier posts about the most pretentious people also being the worst artists. The people who are the most concerned about looking like they are creative artists and acting like they are eccentric are usually trying to cover up a lack of talent.
Art students can be pretentious pricks but a lot of them are fairly normal, reasonable people (well...mostly normal anyway). The one's that you have to watch out for are the ones who think of themselves as "artists." I was considered one of the best photographers in my class but I never took myself too seriously or started altering my work because I read a Susan Sontag article and decided she's sooooo smarrrrtttt.
Art school instructors, on the other hand, are almost assuredly all vile, soulless creatures. They are solely responsible for me dropping out of art school. I mean, how can someone award a C- due to these opening paragraphs in weekly critique?
The Three Friends Of Winter” paintings on exhibit at the Freer are quite lovely, taken out of the context of the reading. In fact, I have no clue what the reading means, since the authors seem caught up in using the most complicated language possible in all situations, no doubt to prove their intellectual superiority and thus alleviate some sort of pent-up feeling of ineptitude gained in childhood, because they read a “big” book, and all of their peers made fun of them.
Is this their revenge? Is ruining the enjoyment of art by converting it to its harshest, most abstract and indecipherable terms their ruthless retaliatory act? Is the application of caliginous patter really a necessity (“see…I can use the big werds too, jus’ like the guy in th’ book!”)?
That having been stated, the exhibit was quite charming. After living in Northern Wisconsin for the majority of my life, I understand the concept of “winter,” as well as the concepts of “hope” and “cheer” (and their essentiality) during said “winter.” In Wisconsin, these concepts are not plum blossoms, bamboo, or evergreen, but instead, the smooth, smooth taste of Pabst Blue Ribbon, and the gentle, soulful caress of a drooping tip-up on a frozen lake suddenly transforming into the form of an erect tip-up. Still, I can see how The Three Friends of Winter served similar needs in China during the months of drear.
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:26 am
by Red Square_Archive
the teachers and students both were a mixed bag, but most of my teachers sucked...they had the precious artist thing going on...
i do miss the students that i got along well with and wonder what they're up to in california...
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:36 am
by Mandroid20_Archive
Red Square wrote:the teachers and students both were a mixed bag, but most of my teachers sucked...they had the precious artist thing going on...
i do miss the students that i got along well with and wonder what they're up to in california...
Where did you go and what was your major?
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:42 am
by Red Square_Archive
Berkeley (don't get impressed, it was the trade school portion) and my major was graphic design...which i don't even do anymore...it made me hate art...ironically though it did make me a much better artist...
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:48 am
by coach_Archive
Big John wrote:Like art schools but think that they perform some good but in some cases they train people for professions that don't exist in as much as they are money making operations.
Doesn't seem different than any other liberal arts degree.
Fuck me, I'd love to go to school and study art, personalities-of-my-classmates be damned.
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:54 am
by Red Square_Archive
if i had a fully paid tuition i'd love to give art school another go really...but it would be somewhere like Columbia...i liked the sound of it in the previous post...
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:00 am
by Mandroid20_Archive
I had an instructor break down what would happen to us each upon graduation, including the financial aspects a la "The Problem With Music." That's one of the main reasons that I dropped out. That, and seeing all of my friends graduating and going into other careers to pay their bills and the massive loans that they'd taken out to go to art school.
Grad schools tend to like undergrads from private art institutions but I honestly think that state schools have far better art programs. I thought that it was pretty absurd that no business or math classes were required for graduating art school, as if you're going to get through life as an artist doing nothing other than creating art.
The Corcoran is $26K a year at the moment. I would not suggest that anyone go there unless they are pursuing graphic design degrees. The administration and staff are INSANELY inept.
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:08 am
by Octopus Alaska_Archive
Quicker explanation than most, ready?
Answer: Not Crap
Why: I fucked one, she was good at sex.
Art schools: redeemed by one 21 year old vagina...
People: ART Students
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:13 am
by Red Square_Archive
you're lucky, most of them are interested in being 'bi' for a year...which usually means girls only until a cock becomes convenient...