agent202 wrote:

Mazec wrote:, Catholic groups have generally been opposed to bloody military conflicts,

humm humm did you forget the crusade, during 100 years, and all around the world "les croisés" was send by catholic church to force peoples, in some fucking big bloody conflict, to became catholic!!!

anyway i think this is a crap post, catholic are not much weird than any weird people!!!!!

I meant in the current era, and I think that was clear by the context.

clocker bob wrote:People say, "What about Jesus?"- well, we have biographies of Jesus written by men. We also have biographies of people in recent history like FDR that paint very different pictures of a man that we know to have existed.

Indeed there is very little to zero reliable evidence that Jesus actually existed. Certainly the Jesus we know about is a construct of earlier demi-god myths and if there was such a person we know nothing about him.

If there is a God, an omnipotent and compassionate God, then that God was smart enough to build directly into your brain all the guiding principles you need to know about how to behave yourself and how to treat others, right in your conscience.

A conscience is developed by your social upbringing. Different societies have different notions of right and wrong. Morality is not biological.

clocker bob wrote: If there is a God, an omnipotent and compassionate God...

It's impossible, pain and suffering prove that the Christian god doesn't exist. You can't be all loving and all powerful and allow a million people to get slaughtered the day after Christmas. Christian theologists have tried to twist and turn their way out of this, with zero success that wasn't simply changing the meaning of the religion to fit in with the "God make evil for a reason" argument.

This is unrefined bullshit of the highest order.

There is "evil" in the world, therefore God does not exist. End of story.