rzs wrote:

tzero wrote:

rzs wrote:

Arson Smith wrote:Sonic Youth - 'Goo' (Geffen) **

** (I predict much disagreement on this one)

You guessed it. I much disagree. "Mote" is good, but the rest of it sucks. ... Anyway, Goo sucks, but it is much better than the truly horrendous "Dirty." What a pile of crap.

Whether or not Dirty is crap, I would also give an exception to Lee's "Wish Fulfillment". I would also add its cousin, the "Genetic" B-side, since they included it on the reissue.

Yeah. Lee's songs are usually their best.

wow I thought choppy and I are the only people who thought that...

Dismsmberment Plan's "Emergency & I" was awesome. Though released on DeSoto, it was recorded on Interscope's dime.

Alice Cooper
Black Sabbath

both before they started to suck...

Gang of Four - Entertainment

tallchris wrote:These records would have been great if they'd been on indie labels. These bands just happened to put their best work out on a major.

Whats the difference? Would you have heard these rekkids even if they were on an Indie Label? My wife points out that one of the reasons these albums were great was the fact that they had major label support, like engineers, and good studios, etc. Your post makes doesn't make any sense.

There is a non-trivial distinction between bands whose only recording option was a major label (before 1980 or thereabouts) and those who came later and had a fully-functioning independent music community as an option.

I am comfortable saying that no* rock music of merit was made outside of that community, but instead made for major labels.

*assume a minute but possibly non-zero value of no.

Does Tom Waits count?

I'd second Hum, Downward is Heavenward is by far the best thing they ever did.

What year is this thread in?

Anyway, the correct answers to this question are Lothar And The Hand People and Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments.

Ta!

mr bungle!
alice cooper!
early metallica!
beck!

theres way more!

dont let the label take away from what you hear, leave that to work ethics, attitudes and live shows!