Rice queen crap.

What Doc said. I cannot take this band seriously at all. I can't believe that Pinkerton is so "emotional" and "heartfelt" with it's dippy, awful lyrics. I cannot believe that Rivers' life is so full of heartbreak and woe when he nails a different 13 year old asian groupie every night on tour.

People give Rivers so much lip service as a songwriter, but his lyrics are legitimately terrible. Hackneyed moon/june/soon crap.

The music itself is sometimes tolerable, but what isn't stolen from the Pixies is stolen from The Cars and Cheap Trick. I already own probably 15-20 albums combined by these three groups, so I don't think I really need to fuck around with watered-down versions.

Weezer, to me, are forever CRAP. Candlebox with an indie aesthetic.

Also, you can draw a line directly from Rivers to Connor Oberst. I have a mint copy of the Bastro Sing The Troubled Beast/El Diablo Guapo re-release that Drag City pulled, which I am offering to anyone who can go back in time to 1992, and can stop Rivers from writing this crap music. If you must use force, that is acceptable.

horsewhip wrote:...Candlebox with an indie aesthetic.

Woah, woah, woah - lets keep this a clean fight; no hitting below the belt please.

i thought it was moon/june/spoon?

If the likes of Leisure by Blur and Clarity by Jimmy Eat World can be considered classics then so, conceivably, could Weezer's debut.

This process of canonisation relies on nostalgia and the connivance of lowered critical standards.

Two albums I loved that were also released in 1994; Full Isaac by Lotion and Dragline by Paw.
Can I smuggle these two into the alt. rock canon, one under each oxter? Don't I owe it to my former self?

"The Blue Album" is CRAP, nostalgia or no.

Waffle Factor of 0.25 for not being as boorish and offensive as the follow-up Pinkerton.

I much prefer a handful of tracks off of Beulah's first album -- songs that somehow seem to occupy the same mid-90s catchy college rock territory but without rubbing me the wrong way. Check out: "Matter Vs. Space", "If We Can Land A Man On The Moon, Surely I Can Win Your Heart", "Score From Augusta", and "Emma Blowgun's Last Stand". These songs -- they way they are performed and produced -- miles better than the Blue album. Trust me.

Plus, i couldn't listen to that Weezer record these days without reliving endless trips to Denny's with my high school friends and, more specifically, their friends (people whom i often didn't care for). It's like the band Sublime, even if you never liked them, if you were a high shcooler from the suburbs during the mid 90s, you always ended up having to listen to them anyway, usually blasting out of someone's mom's car stereo.

CRAP despite the catchiness.

the candlebox reference was hilarious

i like avant garde better (with rivers cuomo in the middle)

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that was posted earlier

yes, i'm sorry, didn't see it