Badcomrade,
Thanks so much for uploading that show. I've had it,in one form or another, with inferior sound quality for years. It's great to hear it this way.
RMW
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32Minotaur029 wrote:You think this is the strongest vocal performance you've ever seen? Give me a break.
No, I think it's very good.
I was saying I believe NerblyBear.
run joe run wrote:Kerble your enthusiasm.
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33tommydski wrote:Minotaur029 wrote:You think this is the strongest vocal performance you've ever seen? Give me a break.
No, I think it's very good.
I was saying I believe NerblyBear.
I think NerblyBear might love this today, but tomorrow, who knows?
kerble wrote:Ernest Goes to Jail In Your Ass
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34A perfect, incredible album that has stood the test of time, in the sense that it could have been made at any time since it's debut, and you wouldn't have noticed, culturally or otherwise.
True fucking art is exactly that. This album is exactly that.
True fucking art is exactly that. This album is exactly that.
But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.
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35r0ck1r0ck2 wrote:here, i started a thread on a different forum a few years ago on Ricky Wilson's guitar sound.
i got this reply.i can tell you something about ricky's "style." i spent some time with ricky. we were playing different things and he kept trying different tunings. after a while i said, "well, why don't you just try standard tuning and maybe we can come up with something interesting that way too?"
he said, "i don't know standard tuning" so i said, "well, what tuning are you in, (G?, D?, etc...) and i can show you how to get to standard tuning from there" and he said, "i don't know what tuning i am in."
I said, "huh, you don't know what tuning you are in? how do you write songs?" and he said, "i just tune the strings till i hear something i like and then something comes out". (mind you, we had just been jamming for an hour or so and had been working fine together)
so i asked him, "well, how do you replay the songs you have written, like rock lobster? do you write down the tunings?" and he said, "no, i don't write anything down, and i have no idea how the tunings go." i was flabbergasted and i asked him, "how the hell do you play the songs again then", and he said (in all seriousness), "i don't know!"
a true story. and the nicest guy you would ever meet. i still don't know how he did it but every time i saw them live it was a complete blast, and they drove me nuttier than a sane man ought to get, jumping around dancing and screaming. (mind you i got pretty stoned back then). what a great band.
Mind = blown.
Gay People Rock
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36Minotaur029 wrote:
I think it's a really strong melody, but I don't find it addictive, mesmerizing, or mindblowing. I see stuff like this all the time*, and it's usually done with more accuracy than this. That being said, the two singers in tandem have a much better, much more interesting sound to them than most of those bands, even if these B-52ers hit icky notes on occasion.
You're missing the point. It's obvious that they miss notes.
That's part of the appeal. I've heard the recorded version. I know what the notes are supposed to be. So when they miss them, it's throws in a mood of reckless abandon that really appeals to me. Whether that conduct rises to the level of criminal recklessness will depend on whether they consciously disregarded a substantial and unjustifiable risk. I kid.
There are no "wrong" notes anyway. Any note juxtaposed with any other note can spark something interesting. Sonic Youth taught us that. So did DNA and Ornette Coleman and Merzbow or who have you. You just have to train your nervous system to respond to them.
A large part of what I love about that performance is that these are amateur singers who are singing their hearts out and coming up with brilliant stuff anyway. I love that. It warms my soul.
Gay People Rock
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37NerblyBear wrote:So did DNA
You also completely slagged DNA and then made a thread dedicated to their greatness, remember?
Anyway, I liked the performance--I nearly bought the debut record today based on everybody's comments. Ultimately, I decided that I was too poor to afford it...and yes, I get the point of the damn vocals, NerblyBear:
Just above I wrote:That being said, the two singers in tandem have a much better, much more interesting sound to them than most of those bands, even if these B-52ers hit icky notes on occasion.
So yeah, a good sound.
It was pointless on my part to call you out on this. If that's the greatest vocal you've ever heard, then okay.
kerble wrote:Ernest Goes to Jail In Your Ass
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38Minotaur029 wrote:I think NerblyBear might love this today, but tomorrow, who knows?
You might be right there.
Let's say this album has been a firm favourite of mine for over ten years so I believe that other people will find it interesting over a similar amount of time. NB included.
run joe run wrote:Kerble your enthusiasm.
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39NerblyBear wrote:
There are no "wrong" notes anyway. Any note juxtaposed with any other note can spark something interesting. Sonic Youth taught us that. So did DNA and Ornette Coleman and Merzbow or who have you. You just have to train your nervous system to respond to them.
What you are trying to describe (more or less) stems from the "12 tone technique¨" and it was developed by Arnold Schoenberg in the 1920's, not Sonic fucking Youth in 1982.
Please stop. Really. You´ve proven time and again that you know shit-all about music history, been called out on it, and yet you continue to portray yourself as some sort of authoritative source, constantly.
Edit: B52s S/T is Not Crap, Not Crap, Not Crap.
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D. Perino deduced: "The Cuban Missile Crisis?...“It had to do with Cuba and missiles, I’m pretty sure.”
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40You could say we're all pretending to be something we're not.
Exposé - I don't think you're a real Doctor.
Likewise I'm beginning to suspect that neither are Dr(s). Awkward & Venkman. I understand the importance of them checking my prostate but twice a week, every week? Come on!
Exposé - I don't think you're a real Doctor.
Likewise I'm beginning to suspect that neither are Dr(s). Awkward & Venkman. I understand the importance of them checking my prostate but twice a week, every week? Come on!
run joe run wrote:Kerble your enthusiasm.