As to where they come from, I haven't a guess, but tooth-and-nail Sublime supporters do exist. I came across a group of them last week arguing with another group who thought that the Red Hot Chili Peppers was the best band of all time.

lemur68 wrote:Where are all these alleged massive legions of Sublime fans? I never see this, outside of the odd bro-dog in a Sublime T. Either I am not paying attention or they are imaginary.

Here is a little forum action for ya. I guess we won't be seeing you around here from now on.

http://forum.grasscity.com/music-hall/251887-true-sublime-fans-enter.html

vanilla ice wins just for the sheer fact that he inspired generations of wiggers to come into existence...that fact alone overrides anything else he ever did...among the other facts that were listed by everyone else he is still riding on the coattails of his former glory in a reinvented and even worse nu-metal style of his one-shit wonder...

i didn't think it was possible to make shit shittier...

sublime may be a dudebro band and i used to like them and still partially do but at the very least listening to them got me into better reggae later on...

before i never had much exposure to reggae so i never sought it out...so kudos to them for that!

edit: the other really bad thing about sublime is how much they recycled their own material...every other song has snippets of every other song in it...

I already have 163.
I got this in the bag.

i know, i know but sublime had some good songs.

kenoki wrote:i know, i know but sublime had some good songs.

I don't understand the popular consensus regarding "Santeria." It seems like every "Sublime sucks because" discussion I've ever heard has made allowances for the song, and I am 100% confused by it. It's really not that great a song. It's certainly not that different, at least to me, than any of Sublime's other radio singles. Which are the only songs by Sublime that I know.

When I was a frequently-stoned youth, I had a friend who could practically always be counted on to be doing one of two things: 1) watching ice hockey, or 2) listening to Sublime. When I was getting high with this friend I heard a lot of Sublime songs that were not among their radio singles, and at the time (while stoned, mind) I found them perfectly listenable. Even good, sometimes. But I don't recall ever hearing these songs while sober and I don't know the names of any of them, so I'm left with the conclusion that Sublime is wholly terrible. Especially "What I Got." And the song about date rape. Fuck them all.

I at least got a few laughs out of Vanilla Ice. First, when listening to To The Extreme and realizing how many songs he was ripping off (sampling? kind of. mostly ripping off.) and particularly upon hearing the song "Havin' a Roni." That song, she is magical laughter time. I can't even make sense of what he's doing on the song. Secondly, watching his appearance on SNL back in 1992 or whenever during which his DJ (D-Shay, I think) prompted the audience repeatedly to say "ICE ICE BABY, TOO COLD, TOO COLD!" and was answered each time with almost complete silence from said audience. It wasn't that the audience was merely inaudible, because there were one or two people actually trying to participate, but most of the audience was silent. Oh, how I laughed. I wish I still had the recording of this "performance."

And of course thirdly was upon hearing Robert V. Winkle's "nu-metal" album. The one with the nu-metal remake of Ice Ice Baby. Pretty hilarious stuff.

For providing laughter, even while sober, I have to give the vote to Vanilla. Too cold. Too cold.

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:I already have 163.
I got this in the bag.

I'm counting on you, McGarvey.

I'd never heard Sublime (what a misleading name), until about 9 weeks ago when a co-worker put them on and all I can say is CRAP.

At least I can smirk at Vanilla Ice. Sublime is absolutely devoid of any amusement value, musical integrity, song writing prowess, or talent. So another Junkie kicked the fucking bucket. Big deal, hasn't changed my opinion of Alice in Chains either.

Bland, "Offensive", "Risque" ass wipe rock.

At least I can smirk at Vanilla Ice.

enframed wrote:

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:I already have 163.
I got this in the bag.

I'm counting on you, McGarvey.

He can do it. I am 100% certain.

Sublime has a couple great songs, even though their overall discography is definitely crap, and they clearly had a genuine appreciation for reggae and hip-hop. Their fan base is shittier than they are, because it's mostly people who don't.

Vanilla Ice is just shitty.