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When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:32 am
by interloper_Archive
Great subject.

For me personally, I know that I won't quit making music. It was more a re-evaluation of what about it I enjoyed about it. Gone forever are the desires of wanting any actual textbook success. Id rather "hear the death rattle of my own child" (to quote David Cross) than to be in some shitty van in some shitty club on a Tuesday night. There's too much that surrounds music that only stifles it and it gets worse all the time (since when is the "indie" world so dependant on men with eye shadow, those dumb little Beatle haircuts, and a morbid cultural fascination with the 1970's?....a handful of today's more popular indie band's dress up routines only make me hate them more....I so dearly miss the Chicago and Minneapolis of the early 90's), and I chose to streamline my endeavors to fit my attitude towards the whole thing, and I think that's a big part of the beauty of it all. I enjoy the thought of setting the process up to fit what I like to do and how I like to do it. Everyone seemingly does everything the same anyway. Long story short, now that I've let go of wanting to be involved in any said typical success, I feel like I can do whatever I feel like doing. If people like it, fine. A degree of properly applied apathy is a good thing I think.

I come from the land of GBV, and knowing what I know, I have to raise my chalace to Pollard for handling what he does the way he has. To me, he seems more genuine because he's seemingly done the vast majority of what he's done how he wants to do it. The second hand story I heard about Steve turning down the opening slot on the Pixies reunion (regardless of how much truth there is to it) makes me feel the same way. "Wow, he must actually like and give a damn about what he does musically....I bet he doesn't earn his living on his band, so he doesn't have to pimp it out to keep it afloat".

Older wiser people make better music than younger more naive people anyway.

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:55 pm
by ginandtacoscom_Archive
I once saw Robert Pollard pull about 1/4 of the contents of a whiskey bottle in one continuous swig.

I spent the rest of the show trying to figure out why he wasn't dead.

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:26 pm
by zkonow_Archive
ginandtacos.com wrote:I once saw Robert Pollard pull about 1/4 of the contents of a whiskey bottle in one continuous swig.

I spent the rest of the show trying to figure out why he wasn't dead.



Most likely because iced tea is not very toxic. Ask Michael Anthony...

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:14 pm
by steve_Archive
interloper wrote: The second hand story I heard about Steve turning down the opening slot on the Pixies reunion (regardless of how much truth there is to it) makes me feel the same way.


I didnt turn down anything by myself. The band decided (as a band) not to do it. It has nothing to do with the Pixies, and everything to do with all the reasons we do the sorts of shows we do choose to do. This show wouldn't have been anything like the sort of show we would enjoy, so we said no.

I'll never understand why people agree to do things they know will be a drag, and then complain about it after suffering through it.

On topic, I'd say the only reason to do anything is because it is of itself satisfying. Externalities (money, praise, sense of importance) are window-dressing to an experience that should have its own value (or not).

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:42 pm
by Superking_Archive
MrFood! What happened?

I shall never post here again - nor will i again look at these forums. I seriously recommend some of you do the same. Toomanyhelicopters being one example. I have nothing against you - but really, have you stopped to think about what you are doing?
But not just him, other folks too.

Grow the fuck up you pathetic fucking individuals. Go outside. Talk to people. Really, I mean it. The short time I've been a member of this site has been an eye-opener and i really worried myself. You should all be worried too.

Anyway, thank you and goodbye.


Shouldn't you be outside, talking to people?

Welcome.

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:47 pm
by horsewhip_Archive
You beat me to it!

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:30 am
by buzzsaw_Archive
McFood's Last Post- Two: revenge of last post

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:30 am
by shagboy_Archive
oh oh oh ! you're my favourite message board stereotype! :D

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:49 am
by kerble_Archive
When does one reasonably have to give up posting on a msg board?

When does one reasonably have to give up being a musician?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:53 am
by shagboy_Archive
actually, i take that back... my favourite message board stereotype is the histrionic schizophrenic who eventually gets the whole message board against them with his/her retarded and overdramatic posts (ie, 'i'm going to call the fbi on you!' [true story]) and then says 'my whole message board persona has been part of a message board experiment to see how dumb you are, and it turns out you're all dumb! you losers! whenever i'm posting, me and ten friends are reading and laughing our asses off at you losers!'

yeah, that's my favourite. maybe you'll turn into one of those if we give it some time.