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Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:41 am
by alpha80_Archive
Extra over-rated.
Especially by the hood.
He put out some funny records. A few good singles.
But officially over-rated.
And yup, I even "had the underground joint that he did w/ Skam"
...before Dre thought about signing him.
Still...over-rated even then.
Needs to make another funny-@ss record soon.
Crap WF7
Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:32 am
by Champion Rabbit
Linus Van Pelt wrote:Proof that being good at rapping is not sufficient to make one a good rapper.
Crap.
Salut for this!
It reminds me of
this Alexei Sayle sketch...
Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:33 am
by bassdriver_Archive
Antero wrote:Though seriously, Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP, his verses on Dre's Chronic 2001... for a while there he was quite possibly the best rapper working. That delivery, so sharp, every line jumps.
Not Crap.
I agree with this. his voice and his flow are great! but the music? bad! after the slim shady lp dre just did the same song over and over.
how can you work with musicians and live recordings and then make it sound like it's all made of cheap standard synth sounds?
Eminem the rapper: not crap Eminem the music: crap Eminem the person: pffff
Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:07 am
by tommydski_Archive
This brings to mind the biggest problem I have with modern hip-hop. The use of samples is incredibly lazy. Back when Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Terminator X and Jam Master Jay were using samples the idea was to create a pastiche of samples used sparsely throughout a song. Ever since Dre and his ilk started using entire choruses or two to three lazy samples ad nauseum, the subtlety has been lost.
Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:31 am
by Cranius_Archive
tommydski wrote:This brings to mind the biggest problem I have with modern hip-hop. The use of samples is incredibly lazy. Back when Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Terminator X and Jam Master Jay were using samples the idea was to create a pastiche of samples used sparsely throughout a song. Ever since Dre and his ilk started using entire choruses or two to three lazy samples ad nauseum, the subtlety has been lost.
I read this the other day and it made me smile:
For rapper Eminem's hit single "My Name Is," hip hop record producer Dr. Dre wanted to use a sample (written by Siffre and including Siffre on electric piano) of his song "I Got The Blues" for the rhythm track. Siffre objected to what he describes as "lazy writing" (in the sleeve notes of the EMI re-mastered CD of the source album Remember My Song): "Attacking two of the usual scapegoats, women and gays, is lazy writing. If you want to do battle, attack the aggressors not the victims".
Eminem and Dr Dre had to edit their song to get the sample cleared.
Not Crap...Salut Labi Siffre!
Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:15 am
by Boombats_Archive
Cranius wrote:I read this the other day and it made me smile:
For rapper Eminem's hit single "My Name Is," hip hop record producer Dr. Dre wanted to use a sample (written by Siffre and including Siffre on electric piano) of his song "I Got The Blues" for the rhythm track. Siffre objected to what he describes as "lazy writing" (in the sleeve notes of the EMI re-mastered CD of the source album Remember My Song): "Attacking two of the usual scapegoats, women and gays, is lazy writing. If you want to do battle, attack the aggressors not the victims".
Eminem and Dr Dre had to edit their song to get the sample cleared.
Not Crap...Salut Labi Siffre!
Salut Cranius, this is the first example I've heard of enforced lyrical content editing for a GOOD purpose!
Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:16 am
by Boombats_Archive
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Musician: Eminem- Marshall Mathers- Slim Shady etc.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:25 am
by Germ War_Archive
The problem with Eminem on his later records is likely that he got comfortable. Fame'll do that. So he had to create controversy, instead of dealing with his own.
I agree with what was said above regarding the early records, particularly the Slim Shady LP. So many good lines on that record, delivered flawlessly.