Red Medicine is my fave in spite of the unnecessary lo-fi bits in the beginning of some songs; chalk it up to me *knowing* they are such a "sober" and "controlled" band and thus judging their attempts to be "weird" subconsciously but I just think they sound phony when they sound like that hence possibly why I couldn't stand some of "End hits" and songs like "Pink frosty" and-yuck!!!-"Floating Boy", also, that "studio as an instrument" approach doesn't play to the bands strengths at all IMO. While I guess it started on "Red Medicine", it's still my fave, just needs some editing.

My second fave is "Steady diet of nothing" which *sounds* incredibly flat and dull but has excellent songs, especially the Guy Prosciutto tunes with the codas...

"In on the Killtaker" and "Repeater" are also very good but the latter-like "13 songs"-has not aged too well for me which is not Fugazis fault, it just is what it is. "In on the Killtaker" on the other hand gets a bit tiresome but when in the right mood, it's their most visceral and powerful album IMO...

"Argument" sounded boring in my memory and as if they had started to dig Radiohead or something, maybe time for a revisit...

The first one I heard was Steady and yes, weird recording aside, songs are awesome.

i take it back. this is the debate that will never die, not nuclear power.
https://www.premierrockforum.com/viewto ... =6&t=12405
red medicine wins the first round.

https://www.premierrockforum.com/viewto ... ?f=4&t=936
this one never got off the ground.

https://www.premierrockforum.com/viewto ... =6&t=26517
most people put end hits first

https://www.premierrockforum.com/viewto ... ?f=4&t=936
using a ranked choice voting method i invented in law school, argument is the winner here. i counted everyone's favorite, 2nd favorite, and so on, eliminating the biggest loser in every round until only one record remained after 7 rounds. it satisfies the condorcet-loser and monotonicity criteria if you are into that stuff. (sequential runoff voting is flawed in my opinion because it eliminates the smallest winner in each round.)
if you can get a large sample size (22 voters in this instance) this is really the most accurate method of picking a winner. repeater got a plurality of first place votes, but it ended up losing (didn't even make it to round 7) mostly because there was a 3-way tie for 2nd in the first round.

Absolutely nuts that there are people out there who think Guy Picciotto is the one with the bad voice.

jakethesnake wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:48 am that "studio as an instrument" approach doesn't play to the bands strengths at all IMO.

so wrong

Bernardo wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:32 am

jakethesnake wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:48 am that "studio as an instrument" approach doesn't play to the bands strengths at all IMO.

so wrong

Sometimes I feel they're just goofin around a bit... like that song that starts with Lalli replicating the sweet leaf riff... Floating boy? It just goes nowhere.

It sounds great and the strong tracks are really strong (Break might be my fave album opener) but some of them seem like sketches or underdone.

I am into the collage approach they used most heavily on Red Medicine and End Hits, both with the practice jams/home recording snippets and album artwork. They had made so many 'documentarian' records by that point (with previous bands too) that the approach was refreshing, and I love how much it bummed out some of my 'punk' friends.

This is an impossible question. Kill Taker - Red Medicine - End Hits is a pretty untouchable run. "Foreman's Dog" holy moly what a song.

joelb wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:12 am "Foreman's Dog" holy moly what a song.

Funny, that is one of my least favorite in their discography.

Relistened to Steady diet again; those songs are some of the best they wrote.

I mean, "Reclamation", come on; Those guitars perforating with only a couple of chords, that deeeep bass melody, that kinda walkin/crawling drum pattern and the tiny guitar bits when Mckaye starts talkin'. That's great experimentation.

Vibracobra wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:39 am

joelb wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:12 am "Foreman's Dog" holy moly what a song.

Funny, that is one of my least favorite in their discography.

Relistened to Steady diet again; those songs are some of the best they wrote.

I mean, "Reclamation", come on; Those guitars perforating with only a couple of chords, that deeeep bass melody, that kinda walkin/crawling drum pattern and the tiny guitar bits when Mckaye starts talkin'. That's great experimentation.

"Foreman's Dog" smokes. So does "Reclamation" (in spite of weird production).

Guy's clarinet almost ruins Red Medicine, but "Target" is also top tier Fugazi, as is "Forensic Science".