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horse_laminator wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:03 pm

enframed wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:00 pm I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Never gets old, Patrick. Very funny.

DaveA wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:09 pm ^^ Those monologues about Phil Collins, Huey Lewis, serial killer guy's skin care routine, etc. are probably the only great things in that movie. Especially funny is when Willem Dafoe's character surprises him by expounding on the album Sports.

enframed wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:54 pm

horse_laminator wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:03 pm

enframed wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:00 pm I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Never gets old, Patrick. Very funny.

I really hope you are not the first to pick up on this. Seems maybe you are. Sad times.

enframed wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:54 pm I really hope you are not the first to pick up on this. Seems maybe you are. Sad times.

enframed wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:45 pm

ErikG wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:10 pm https://www.thisamericanlife.org/339/transcript

Pretty good stuff.