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Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:36 pm
by zorg
mark76 wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:10 pm Can anyone point to any kind of nascent Neo-Grunge* scene happening anywhere?

*For any given value of "Grunge"
Not to my knowlege, but the “second wave” imitators like Silverchair, Creed and Bush pretty much made it uncool almost immediately.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:36 pm
by DaveA
Don't know about "neo-grunge" (whatever that is), but fuzz pedals, for one, are more popular now than they were in the nineties.

Or at least it sure as hell seems that way.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:40 pm
by mark76
Easy to manufacture; so a good first product for any budding pedal builder. Easy to use. HARD to use well.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:58 pm
by zorg
The fuzz pedals are selling because of the popularity of stoner/doom bands and the second wave of shoegaze…which I guess are also part of the same lineage.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:28 pm
by losthighway
mark76 wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:10 pm Can anyone point to any kind of nascent Neo-Grunge* scene happening anywhere?

*For any given value of "Grunge"
I heard it in the mix when I investigated the rock journalist's critical darling Snail Mail.

My wife listens to FM radio in the car and I heard some strains of grunge-lite in more pop type stuff. Kind of the Avril Lavigne thing where they spice a Britney Spears type person up with some smacky drums and distorted power chords.

I heard something on the local indie station that was new and very Hole influenced. I wish I could say who that was.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:01 am
by DaveA
zorg wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 6:58 pm The fuzz pedals are selling because of the popularity of stoner/doom bands and the second wave of shoegaze…
Yes, and indie rock bands, possibly influenced by these bands, that would like to sound somewhat heavier now.
...which I guess are also part of the same lineage.
If we zoom out enough, sure.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:46 pm
by VaticanShotglass
So I saw a few PRF or PRF adjacent bands Saturday night. Great time. Other than a band member's kid, there was one notably young person there. Which doesn't mean anything because this was a tiny show. But they started a conversation with me that I found really funny.

First off they were talking about "the post-punk" scene in Raleigh-Durham area. I don't know why, but the phrase kinda surprised me. Maybe because they were young, maybe because I never heard that term when finding bands that I'd later see termed post-punk long after the fact. I'm not too genre conscious, but some people really latch on to that stuff.

Second, they were struggling to find a delicate way of expressing disappointment that the local "post-punk scene" skewed old. That really cracked me up! They were worried it sounded mean, but I was just like, "hey, don't feel bad about the truth!" Besides, I thought it was cool that younger folks are at all interested in noisy old-man music that I like. If anything it should be flattering to all the aging dads hanging out. I did suggest they forge the path and drag some friends out or start a band. Anyway, cool kid with lots of interesting ideas and interests in the area art and music.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:09 pm
by mark76
PRF? What is that? :?

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:41 pm
by jfv
mark76 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:09 pm PRF? What is that? :?
Assuming that you honestly don't know, take a look at the domain name of this web site.

Re: In the 21st Century Everything Old Is New Again

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:44 pm
by mark76
Ah. I'd forgotten.