she's more brave than that coward FDR--hiding behind the mask of radio so that people wouldn't see his gimpy legs. For Shame! FDR.

kerble wrote:she's more brave than that coward FDR--hiding behind the mask of radio so that people wouldn't see his gimpy legs. For Shame! FDR.

Or Hulk Hogan hiding behind that head band.

tmidgett wrote:
it makes perfect sense, since that is in fact why she canceled the tour, and to the best of my knowledge there's nothing disgraceful about having cancer

I certainly didn't suggest that there was anything disgraceful about having cancer; both my parents died from cancer.

I'm asking you guys if you would tell the world about your cancer if you were Kylie and why you would or wouldn't.

I can't share you guy's enthusiam for Kylie's music; I'm pretty sure she doesn't write it, play any of it, engineer or produce it. I don't think her records are interesting.

I don't wish her any more harm than anybody else who I have never met and care nothing about.

I think Kylie is like a really rubbish Madonna, and I think Madonna is fucking awful. I hope she gets better though, it would still make me sad if this cancer got her. She seems like a nice, fun lady.

In case she likes to read this forum, I'll take this oppurtunity to wish her all the best.

All the best, Kylie.

run joe, run wrote:She seems like a nice, fun lady.

I have it on good authority that she is far from this.

Champion Rabbit wrote:

run joe, run wrote:She seems like a nice, fun lady.

I have it on good authority that she is far from this.

Right. She can go to hell then.

run joe, run wrote:

Champion Rabbit wrote:

run joe, run wrote:She seems like a nice, fun lady.

I have it on good authority that she is far from this.

Right. She can go to hell then.

Does botox explode in high temperatures?

Champion Rabbit wrote:

run joe, run wrote:She seems like a nice, fun lady.

I have it on good authority that she is far from this.

What are you, Popbitch? Come on, spill the beans, bunny.

I like two or three of her songs a lot. It doesn't matter to me that she doesn't write, produce, engineer or play any instruments on it, it's pure manufactured pop and every so often I can enjoy it. Sort of like pigging out on Haribou. You can't live on it, it's completely artificial, and it eventually gives you bad indigestion, but it's fun in small doses. I also like "Beautiful" by Christina Aguilera. Come on then!

Back to the earlier point, would you say that the manufactured nature of a song completely devalues it? By this, I mean that a squad of professional writers, engineers, producers, marketeers and session musicians clinically slot together popular song components and then present it to a singer, fait accompli? Because a lot of old music, particularly soul, was put together like that. Elvis didn't write most of his songs either. Mind you, Elvis was a hero to most...

sparky wrote:
What are you, Popbitch? Come on, spill the beans, bunny.

I knew somebody who did a fair amount of work with/for her over a fairly lengthy period. She is apparently a general-purpose 'I'm a Star! Worship me!' type who converses with people via her PA (not public address system, although that would be quite funny).

Back to the earlier point, would you say that the manufactured nature of a song completely devalues it?

No, not if one likes the product but I find myself occasionally interested in people (musicians, performers and engineers) whose music I don't like purely because from an objective perspective they have value. That's something that one cannot say of Minogue or Madonna et al.

This line of argument has got me thinking about the current St Etienne album. It's been part 'produced' by Xenomania. I like St Etienne, and part of me even enjoys some of the disposable crud that Girls Aloud have released, but this is a step too far. Music should occupy comfortable compartments and talk of 'crossovers' should only ever be in relation to audio equipment. It's like when I first heard of this rap and rock bullshit, I cried like an angry bear. They shouldn't have been mixed - it made buying stuff in places like Virgin Records and Woolworth's unnecessarily difficult. If I want a Slick Dick record, or maybe some Kool and the Gang, I go to the 'Raps' section. If I want some Poison, Slayer or Trans Am I go to the 'Rock' section. If I find Dr Dré in the 'Rock' section, it makes me angry and confused - NOT a good combination.