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Gramsci wrote:That's funny. Considering we eat, shit, fuck, reproduce and die like every other animal on earth, I've nevey figured why Christians think otherwise... I guess that's what uncritical thinking does for you. I fail to see the intelligence in the design from my appendix; a left-over shrunken stomach for digesting all those leaves we stopped eating a couple of hundred thousand years back. It's even more intelligent when it gets appendicitis attempts to kill me... Nice one God, thanks a lot.

Upon your return, Gramsci, let's revive this thread. I wanted to do this earlier but simply had not the disposition nor time to do so.

Where is it definitively said that the cecal appendix has no function and is simply a little dangle from the colon? It seems, from the very competent doctors and surgeons I have spoken to while being treated for IBD, as well as literature that is ought there for the taking, that in fact the appendix may very well have a lymphatic/immunoregulatory function, which in turn might play a role in the etiology of IBD.....but that's all theory at the present because all that is definitely known is that the appendix contains lymphatic tissue, which obviously implies that there is a function inherent to the appendix rather than it being simply a vestigal part of the cecum. In any event, if in fact the cecal appendix has a function as seems to be the case given that it contains lymphatic tissue, it would seem that the evolutionary conclusion regarding its alleged non-function would be invalid and thus nugatory.

matthew wrote:

Gramsci wrote:That's funny. Considering we eat, shit, fuck, reproduce and die like every other animal on earth, I've nevey figured why Christians think otherwise... I guess that's what uncritical thinking does for you. I fail to see the intelligence in the design from my appendix; a left-over shrunken stomach for digesting all those leaves we stopped eating a couple of hundred thousand years back. It's even more intelligent when it gets appendicitis attempts to kill me... Nice one God, thanks a lot.

Upon your return, Gramsci, let's revive this thread. I wanted to do this earlier but simply had not the disposition nor time to do so.

Where is it definitively said that the cecal appendix has no function and is simply a little dangle from the colon? It seems, from the very competent doctors and surgeons I have spoken to while being treated for IBD, as well as literature that is ought there for the taking, that in fact the appendix may very well have a lymphatic/immunoregulatory function, which in turn might play a role in the etiology of IBD.....but that's all theory at the present because all that is definitely known is that the appendix contains lymphatic tissue, which obviously implies that there is a function inherent to the appendix rather than it being simply a vestigal part of the cecum. In any event, if in fact the cecal appendix has a function as seems to be the case given that it contains lymphatic tissue, it would seem that the evolutionary conclusion regarding its alleged non-function would be invalid and thus nugatory.

Actually, I think your verbose reply does nothing but further Gramsci's point. Evolution=Time=Leftovers. But I'm not a doctor, so I'll just politely ask that you stop using the word "nugatory". It makes me feel weird.

nihil wrote:

matthew wrote:Actually, I think your verbose reply does nothing but further Gramsci's point. Evolution=Time=Leftovers. But I'm not a doctor, so I'll just politely ask that you stop using the word "nugatory". It makes me feel weird.

Gramsci wrote:That's funny. Considering we eat, shit, fuck, reproduce and die like every other animal on earth

This is true. But we are rational animals, unlike the rest of the animal kingdom.

I fail to see the intelligence in the design from my appendix; a left-over shrunken stomach for digesting all those leaves we stopped eating a couple of hundred thousand years back.

Apparently this is not what it is. Refer to my post.

It's even more intelligent when it gets appendicitis attempts to kill me... Nice one God, thanks a lot.

Emotional reasoning in an attempt to be humorous and wry yet serious at the same time. Coincidentially, this is the only conclusion an atheist can come to because in the end there is no meaning or purpose to live and the rest of the world according to his perspective. It ought to come as no surprise that someone such as Gramsci who is from one of the most socialist, "I'm entitled to it just cause I am" nations on earth should think that God is a kindly, senile, endearingly bumbling grandfather rather than a powerful, just, involved yet loving Father who has nothing to gain in creating and dealing with his creatures (who in turn deserve nothing from Him), but rather does because He loves his creatures.

matthew wrote:

nihil wrote:

matthew wrote:Actually, I think your verbose reply does nothing but further Gramsci's point. Evolution=Time=Leftovers. But I'm not a doctor, so I'll just politely ask that you stop using the word "nugatory". It makes me feel weird.

Gramsci wrote:That's funny. Considering we eat, shit, fuck, reproduce and die like every other animal on earth

This is true. But we are rational animals, unlike the rest of the animal kingdom.

I fail to see the intelligence in the design from my appendix; a left-over shrunken stomach for digesting all those leaves we stopped eating a couple of hundred thousand years back.

Apparently this is not what it is. Refer to my post.

It's even more intelligent when it gets appendicitis attempts to kill me... Nice one God, thanks a lot.

Emotional reasoning in an attempt to be humorous and wry yet serious at the same time. Coincidentially, this is the only conclusion an atheist can come to because in the end there is no meaning or purpose to live and the rest of the world according to his perspective. It ought to come as no surprise that someone such as Gramsci who is from one of the most socialist, "I'm entitled to it just cause I am" nations on earth should think that God is a kindly, Alot of the ones I don't respond to are ones that are so full of nonsense that any attempt to communicate and respond would be vain. This post is a gem in that regard.senile, endearingly bumbling grandfather rather than a powerful, just, involved yet loving Father who has nothing to gain in creating and dealing with his creatures (who in turn deserve nothing from Him), but rather does because He loves his creatures.

You have a politician's retarded talent of skirting an issue. Why quote me and not address my point?

Get a tan and run for office. This is your calling.

As for your "I'm entitled to it just cause I am" bullshit:
My guess is that Jesus would have been tempted to punch you in the dick for such an inhumane thing to say. You epitomize the very opposite of Jesus' philosophy. Have you ever sat down and thought about that?

nihil wrote:You have a politician's retarded talent of skirting an issue. Why quote me and not address my point?

What was your point? Your point was a reiteration of Gramsci's point, which I had shown to be invalid.

As for your "I'm entitled to it just cause I am" bullshit:
My guess is that Jesus would have been tempted to punch you in the dick for such an inhumane thing to say. You epitomize the very opposite of Jesus' philosophy. Have you ever sat down and thought about that?

What the heck are you talking about? I've lost you here. I'm not joking around.

matthew wrote:

nihil wrote:You have a politician's retarded talent of skirting an issue. Why quote me and not address my point?

What was your point? Your point was a reiteration of Gramsci's point, which I had shown to be invalid.

How? Where?

As for your "I'm entitled to it just cause I am" bullshit:
My guess is that Jesus would have been tempted to punch you in the dick for such an inhumane thing to say. You epitomize the very opposite of Jesus' philosophy. Have you ever sat down and thought about that?

What the heck are you talking about? I've lost you here. I'm not joking around.

Of course you're lost. You have obviously not grasped what your favorite philosopher stood for...

nihil wrote:How? Where?

Reread my post. Then view this, for starters.

Of course you're lost. You have obviously not grasped what your favorite philosopher stood for...

Jesus Christ is not a philosopher.

Jesus Christ is not a philosopher.

What is he,then? The Meschiach? Der Ubermensch?

matthew wrote:

nihil wrote:How? Where?

Reread my post. Then view this, for starters.

Of course you're lost. You have obviously not grasped what your favorite philosopher stood for...

Jesus Christ is not a philosopher.

Then what is he to you? Santa Clause? Dad? Casper? I want to know, but I predict a cowardly/politician response such as: "I can't respond to this because you are so ridiculous."

Give me more than that. If not, good luck not breaking your neck while trying to fellate yourself.

nihil wrote:

matthew wrote:

nihil wrote:How? Where?

Reread my post. Then view this, for starters.

Of course you're lost. You have obviously not grasped what your favorite philosopher stood for...

Jesus Christ is not a philosopher.

Then what is he to you? Santa Clause? Dad? Casper? I want to know, but I predict a cowardly/politician response such as: "I can't respond to this because you are so ridiculous."

Give me more than that. If not, good luck not breaking your neck while trying to fellate yourself.

Just for the record I will say again what I said in the other thread: You are being antagonistic for its own sake. I have nothing further to say to you at this point. Good night.