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rush, rush i can feel you! i can feel you all through me!
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radio personality: rush limbaugh

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matthew wrote:
sparky wrote:
DrAwkward wrote:
matthew wrote:Besides, if you let the market work (which inherently requires ethical people for it's existence) more often it will root out the dishonestly and greed that might exist in businesses eventually,


Hahahahahahahaha...

Oh, to live in a utopia where greed is minimal and the public isn't too stupid or lazy to look out for it. Keep reaching for that rainbow, matthew.


I was about to pick up on that one.

Ahem. No.

Having had exposure to people representing numerous different elements of the financial services industry and the quoted companies that employ them, I am pretty tired of the myth that the market is honest and transparent. It is definitely not.

Excessive greed and dishonesty only seem to be rooted out when it all goes wrong and the wrong people (i.e. the investor institutions and banks) look to lose significant amounts of money due to fraud and incompetence.

matthew wrote:Liberal elitism. Gotta love it.


Matthew, assuming that you are not an invented persona (which I'm not convinced of), you're assurance in stating these fatuous comments is staggering. I am curious to know of what jobs you have had, and how you have got them.

Because those from whom I most frequently hear the "you earn what you deserve" arguments are either tough old mean men who have worked their way up savagely from impoverished beginnings, or, more those who have had an upbringing where they have not had want for need.

And your frequent blanket statements regarding menial workers working for pittance by choice are self-contradictory. I was going to write more on this contradiction, but I have realised that the preceding sentence contains all that is necessary for this argument.

Given that the US and the UK economies are amongst the closest to pure capitalism, the earlier statistics regarding poverty and child deprivation are telling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have blithely ignored these statistics, along with the numerous other hard facts presented that contradict your unpleasant worldview.


You're obviously a socialist Brit, therefore I have nothing to say to you which has not already been said.

In fact in light of this whole present discussion as well as the ID EVO subdebate about the existence of God, most of you people here (especially Albini) seem to be incorrigibly obstinate when it comes to the way the world really is. Thus, I'm not about to have the same discussion 10 times over here, there or elsewhere in this forum. Consider this my last forum post for at least a very, very long time and possibly ever. Send me a PM if you want to talk one on one though. I won't promise you a response however.

Bye, it was a trip

Matthew G. Wauck.


Good fucking riddance, now we won't have someone trying to forum-fuck Steve every god damn post he makes. Adieu, toolbox.

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I love this thing about letting the market work... It is the Republicans big lie, just like the Democrats lie about health care. They do not believe in a free market. They believe in allowing rent-seeking corporations to influence policy and get subsidies from government. Corporate charity...

The reason why so many jobs are being shipped overseas is that there is a tax break for doing this. This is not a free market. In a free market, American intellectual labor could compete with that of India or China. In fact, we have almost reached equillibrium in terms of salaries with India. They don't make as much as we do, but it takes them 2.5 times as many hours to complete the same work (this is what they have found at my company, we do some offshore work with IBM in India).

So the only reason jobs are offshored is not because of some international "free market". It is because corporations are subsidized for doing this. Your tax dollars are going to pay for corporations to get rid of your job, and neither political party is willing to do anything about it.

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Awesome!!!

The Democrats want the troops out of Iraq by the fall of 2008... Isn't that really saying that we want this war to continue for 18 more months? Hmmm. They never really said this while they were begging for votes. I'm so glad I didn't vote for these losers, Nancy Pelosi being the #1 loser (did you know Chevron is her #1 campaign contributor?)

Anyway, there are 70 Democrats in the house that say this is outrageous, and they want the troops out by the end of 2007... I think this is also what the Iraqi's want too, but let's not worry about what they want, or what the American public wants...

Like I said, there are very few liberal Democrats. Most of them are just Republicans. Quite a few of them have switched their party affiliations just to win an office. It's like Tweedledum and Tweedledee or Microsoft and Apple.

It is nice that we have an illusion of a democracy and free market that is so convincing, it actually inspires people to get heated up into punditry over which party is better. I think the Dallas Cowboys are the best political party.

radio personality: rush limbaugh

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yut wrote:Awesome!!!

The Democrats want the troops out of Iraq by the fall of 2008... Isn't that really saying that we want this war to continue for 18 more months? Hmmm. They never really said this while they were begging for votes. I'm so glad I didn't vote for these losers, Nancy Pelosi being the #1 loser (did you know Chevron is her #1 campaign contributor?)

Anyway, there are 70 Democrats in the house that say this is outrageous, and they want the troops out by the end of 2007... I think this is also what the Iraqi's want too, but let's not worry about what they want, or what the American public wants...

Like I said, there are very few liberal Democrats. Most of them are just Republicans. Quite a few of them have switched their party affiliations just to win an office. It's like Tweedledum and Tweedledee or Microsoft and Apple.

It is nice that we have an illusion of a democracy and free market that is so convincing, it actually inspires people to get heated up into punditry over which party is better. I think the Dallas Cowboys are the best political party.


not crap

radio personality: rush limbaugh

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Yut, fuck off.

If you honestly think the current Republican administration is no worse for the average or dis-advantaged American than an equivalently pro-business Democratic one, you are a fucking retard.

On social issues, national security overreaction, court stacking, federal prosecutorial interference, and the "war," the difference is glaring. Why do you persist in this dishonest "there's no difference" bullshit?

You're wrong, fuck off.
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