Yut, you need to realize that you are being a complete ass when you assume that we consider the Democrats to be "rock stars" or flawless. Maybe the more deluded or ignorant Democrats have faith in their politicians, but the people on this board are too disillusioned to have faith in anything.

For the last time: The Democrats are worth voting for because they are better than the Republicans. You've already admitted this to be the case. Stop driveling on and on about stuff we already know.

End of story. Now you can stop trying to prove that you're smarter than everybody here--an attempt which has backfired dreadfully since you keep making an ass out of yourself.

P.S.--aren't you also a prog-rock fan and a huge fan of Zappa? If so, that explains everything.

yut wrote:

steve wrote:

yut wrote:The point is -- who do I vote for if I don't want a war at all?

That isn't a ballot option, nor is giving yourself the Ambassadorship to Sri Lanka. Don't let your frustration blind you to those things you can influence.

Exactly... In fact, very few things have been settled at the ballot boxes. Civil rights and workers' rights were achieved through non-violent direct action. Voting is almost meaningless.

People could change things now, without voting, but it would take some organization and people would need to cough up some money and time.

Even Eisenhower had to desegregate the schools, not only because of the Supreme Court, but because of the pressure from interest groups. He was a Republican and a racist.

You sound a bit like Ralph Nader here...only you come off as a total prick instead of the quasi-prick that Nader comes off as in person (at least when he's "campaigning").

clocker bob wrote:

connor wrote:
Remember when Matthew kept asking me out on a date? That was cute!

What, the asking or the actual date?

Zing!

Can we get Matthew back? Yut's killing me here...

Remember, Yut is the one who, a few months ago, claimed that Chicago had no good Mexican food.

He is not to be taken seriously.

El Protoolio wrote:Remember, Yut is the one who, a few months ago, claimed that Chicago had no good Mexican food.

Actually, I think Yut was unable to decide between a botulism-ridden roach hatchery of a Mexican restaurant and a Mexican restaurant with mediocre guacamole, preferring to wait until a Mexican restaurant that served guacamole made with Benito Juarez' mom's recipe opened on his block. Until then, he stood on the corner starving to death and advising passersby to stay out of all Mexican restaurants.

clocker bob wrote:

El Protoolio wrote:Remember, Yut is the one who, a few months ago, claimed that Chicago had no good Mexican food.

Actually, I think Yut was unable to decide between a botulism-ridden roach hatchery of a Mexican restaurant and a Mexican restaurant with mediocre guacamole, preferring to wait until a Mexican restaurant that served guacamole made with Benito Juarez' mom's recipe opened on his block. Until then, he stood on the corner starving to death and advising passersby to stay out of all Mexican restaurants.

oh, that guy.

I'm just impressed yut hasn't bashed eighties british music in the past five posts.

Salut Yut! you cocksucker.

This just felt like the right thread to post this. Not worth a new thread. From this.

Sidney Blumenthal writes in Salon about the latest meeting of Bush's book club, where the guest was "Andrew Roberts, an English conservative historian and columnist and the author of 'The Churchillians' and, most recently, 'A History of the English-Speaking People Since 1900."

"The subject of Winston Churchill inspired Bush's self-reflection. The president confided to Roberts that he believes he has an advantage over Churchill, a reliable source with access to the conversation told me. He has faith in God, Bush explained, but Churchill, an agnostic, did not. Because he believes in God, it is easier for him to make decisions and stick to them than it was for Churchill. Bush said he doesn't worry, or feel alone, or care if he is unpopular. He has God."

El Protoolio wrote: He has God.

Ordinary hubris drives the afflicted to behave with madness. Holy hubris turns men into sociopaths. You simply cannot invent a better 'special invisible friend' for yourself than by inventing a god that serves you, and then wearing your invented guidance counselor over your shoulders like a magical cape. Bush gloats about his sociopathy. He's been reported making these kinds of boasts many times. 'I don't talk to my father, I talk to my Father', that sort of shit.

He's clinically insane and possessed by demons. I hold out hope for spontaneous combustion.

El Protoolio wrote:Remember, Yut is the one who, a few months ago, claimed that Chicago had no good Mexican food.

He is not to be taken seriously.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Point well taken.