Indeed. I would argue that Pollievre is worse - he’s a little worm, direct ties to sketchy groups, and worst of all, has no sense of humor. Trump at least is occasionally hilarious.losthighway wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:55 amThis sounds like echoes of what's gone on in the US. Sorry to hear it.TylerDeadPine wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:24 amCanadian living in America here. Trudeau has to step down because of the disastrous performance of Team Canada at the IIHF World Juniors.losthighway wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:55 pm Anyone up North (or anyone anywhere else with more reading time than I have) have any thoughts on Trudeau's downfall and his potential replacements?
Change starts at the top. Just ask local idiot Don Cherry https://x.com/CoachsCornerDC/status/1875215709015568816
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Trudeau's leadership has been long in the tooth, he's been attacked by all parties and the LIberals haven't been able to get the carbon tax through to Joe P Canadian. He's getting the blame for a number of things that are on the provinces to handle, even though half the premieres are incompetent and unfit for office. He's been under attack by the same playbook as the american right, and probably actively by the american right. Jagmeet is blowing it as leader of the NDP.
Here's a hot take: I grew up in a union town, staunchly vote NDP yet this year will probably mail in a vote for the Liberals. Even though Mark Carney has little hope of winning, even though the party is in shambles, even though I don't love the Liberal party at all - he seems like the only serious candidate.
It's not helping his cause at all that he LOOKS like Michael Ignatieff, but I would bank on the fact that no one under 35 probably knows who that is.
There's a %99 chance Pierre Pollievre gets in, and it's a national embarrassment.
It seems Mexico is the only North American nation moving in a decent direction.
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3662I feel like libertarianism is about austerity and its horrible consequences for marginalized folks without, you know, saying the quiet part out loud. Or basically, republicans but without religion. I could be off base though.jfv wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:38 amA friend of mine who claims to be libertarian is still engaged in local/grassroots politics. At this point I think there might be four people attending their meetings. Your conclusion seems plausible.twelvepoint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:35 am Whatever happened to libertarianism? Did that just get subsumed into MAGA?
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3663To your point, Elon Musk once claimed to be a libertarian before he joined MAGA.twelvepoint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:59 amI feel like libertarianism is about austerity and its horrible consequences for marginalized folks without, you know, saying the quiet part out loud. Or basically, republicans but without religion. I could be off base though.jfv wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:38 amA friend of mine who claims to be libertarian is still engaged in local/grassroots politics. At this point I think there might be four people attending their meetings. Your conclusion seems plausible.twelvepoint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:35 am Whatever happened to libertarianism? Did that just get subsumed into MAGA?
I'm far from an expert on the subject but seems like their chance to become a major party - whatever it could have been - was last decade when they had actual candidates with some credentials going up against shitty candidates from the two major parties. (though that last point hasn't really changed)
jason (he/him/his) from volo (illinois)
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3664Libertarians think they hit a home run, but started on third. I think I heard that in a movie. I'll agree that it's Republicans minus religion with more opposition to social welfare, infrastructure spending, etc.
We're headed for social anarchy when people start pissing on bookstores.
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3665Great to hear the Canadian left is just as dumb as everywhere else. Do they also bang on about single issues without adding to a wider structural economic strategy?TylerDeadPine wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:39 amDiabolical. They aren’t wrong in the same way Trump was.Gramsci wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:25 amMy so called leftist Canadian friend that works for a rightwing theocratic dictatorship’s news channel Press TV once made the statement “Pollievre is the only politician talking about working class people”. I had no idea who Pollievre was and assumed a niche leftist in a small party.TylerDeadPine wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:24 am
There's a %99 chance Pierre Pollievre gets in, and it's a national embarrassment.
Jagmeet SHOULD have been. A military officer, who’s also Sikh, as head of the NDP?? I was signed the fuck up, and then he just had no policy except attacking the Liberals. He should have been dealing with the threat of the conservatives and he let them consolidate power within what could’ve been his voter base. Well, and also now Canada hates anyone brown.
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.
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3666Libertarianism can be boiled down to three things.twelvepoint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:59 am
I feel like libertarianism is about austerity and its horrible consequences for marginalized folks without, you know, saying the quiet part out loud. Or basically, republicans but without religion. I could be off base though.
No taxes
Legal weed.
No age of consent
clocker bob may 30, 2006 wrote:I think the possibility of interbreeding between an earthly species and an extraterrestrial species is as believable as any other explanation for the existence of George W. Bush.
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3667Libertarians are just anarchists with the wrong books. If they can read and think, they can be saved, but I've also identified the largest roadblock to the plan.Krev wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:11 am Libertarians think they hit a home run, but started on third. I think I heard that in a movie. I'll agree that it's Republicans minus religion with more opposition to social welfare, infrastructure spending, etc.
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3668Any discussions I've had with self identified libertarians seem to have a couple disconnects. The first is whether free market and laissez faire economics are/aren't tied to racism, subjugation and environmental destruction. Another is the increasing wealth disparity in unregulated capitalism and whether that's seen as grossly unfair.Frankie99 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:34 amLibertarians are just anarchists with the wrong books. If they can read and think, they can be saved, but I've also identified the largest roadblock to the plan.Krev wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:11 am Libertarians think they hit a home run, but started on third. I think I heard that in a movie. I'll agree that it's Republicans minus religion with more opposition to social welfare, infrastructure spending, etc.
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3669legal weed won a decade ago. it's not a really an issue anywhere.
these days libertarians evangelize on school choice and cryptocurrency. they are just as fringe as ever. not a threat to anyone.
these days libertarians evangelize on school choice and cryptocurrency. they are just as fringe as ever. not a threat to anyone.