DrAwkward wrote:

alandeus wrote:

fidelista wrote:

alandeus wrote:Do the citizens of Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota (not to mention Florida and Michigan) not get a chance to cast their votes for the candidate they feel should be the Democratic nominee for president? Is Obama's candidacy not strong enough to stand up to a challenge?

Right now there is pretty much no way for Hillary to get more delegates than Obama. She basically has to hope she can dig up some scandal to take him down before the convention, or start stealing delegates he's won. Basically, there is no way she can win honestly.

A candidate has to achieve 2,025 delegates to claim the nomination. Obama currently has 1,403 (1,614 including superdelegates). There are 566 delegates up for grabs in those remaining states. Even if Obama were to win at a 60% clip, he'd only have 1,954 delegates at the end of the primary season, short of the number necessary. Why is nobody suggesting that he drop out?

Because while he won't reach 2025 either, there is no way Hillary is going to even win the national popular vote or win more delegates, while Obama will likely end the primary campaign with majorities in both areas, if not clinching majorities. There's a bit of a difference.

Plus people fucking hate Hillary, that's another reason.

If she slithers her sleazy ass snake self into the nomination, We'll have president McCain. Everyone knows it.

Someone give me a strong case against Hillary. I favor Obama as well, but I feel that anything I can attack her with is just an abstraction, my instincts on her. Is there a real reason not to like her, other than the fact that she seems annoying? Her policy seems pretty solid.

losthighway wrote:Someone give me a strong case against Hillary. I favor Obama as well, but I feel that anything I can attack her with is just an abstraction, my instincts on her. Is there a real reason not to like her, other than the fact that she seems annoying? Her policy seems pretty solid.

i don't feel there is a strong political case against clinton. however, i think, based on my gut instinct, that obama is more presidential than clinton.

clinton's husband seems to think he's up for re-election.
clinton has no backbone.
clinton appears to be part of an existing political machine and she owes favors, more so than obama, anyway.

obama is the only candidate so far that has said that as americans, if we value our country and jobs that we should pay more for quality goods made in the usa. he's the only one who has said that trade with china is getting dangerous. he appears to be more far-sighted than clinton.

he seems smarter, ie, more witty, a sign of intelligence.

that's my take. i could be wrong.

plus, i want a president capable of the emotions necessary to look thus:



i don't know if that's doctored but man he looks badass.

losthighway wrote:Someone give me a strong case against Hillary. I favor Obama as well, but I feel that anything I can attack her with is just an abstraction, my instincts on her. Is there a real reason not to like her, other than the fact that she seems annoying? Her policy seems pretty solid.

She's an in-the-closet lesbian who talks to the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt. Bill is just a beard, and Chelsea isn't his kid; she was impregnated with the sperm of David Crosby by means of a turkey baster. She killed Vince Foster to cover it up because he was about to squeal.

losthighway wrote:Someone give me a strong case against Hillary. I favor Obama as well, but I feel that anything I can attack her with is just an abstraction, my instincts on her. Is there a real reason not to like her, other than the fact that she seems annoying? Her policy seems pretty solid.

losthighway wrote:Someone give me a strong case against Hillary. I favor Obama as well, but I feel that anything I can attack her with is just an abstraction, my instincts on her. Is there a real reason not to like her, other than the fact that she seems annoying? Her policy seems pretty solid.

Selling pardons for cash and votes, crooked investments galore, illegal campaign contributions, constant lying and double talking, fucking people over, she's just a greedy crooked piece of garbage like every other life long politician you can think of.

Look at how many of their close friends and associates are in prison. Look at how many vicious enemies these people have created fucking people over.
They are slime, pure sludge.
I would rather see McCain president than Hillary.

losthighway wrote:Someone give me a strong case against Hillary.

Why don't you start with having a look at the way she runs her campaign? "Vindictive bitch" was always the rumor, and she has thus far lived up to that rumor from what I've seen.

I struggle with finding anything remotely respectable about her. Can someone help me out with that one?

Did Get Yr War On do a strip about Obama's hypocrisy on gay marriage yet? I don't want to miss that one, should be a real humdinger. They have an RSS feed over there?

Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

alandeus wrote:Did Get Yr War On do a strip about Obama's hypocrisy on gay marriage yet? I don't want to miss that one, should be a real humdinger. They have an RSS feed over there?

Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbian ... linton.htm

Clinton opposes gay marriage but supports civil unions between members of the same sex. During her husband's administration, she supported the Defense of Marriage Act, a law preventing the federal recognition of same-sex marriage.

"Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage always has been, between a man and a woman." - Hillary Clinton, opposing same-sex marriages, quoted in The New York Daily News.

So it's a wash. What else ya got?