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rsmurphy wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:53 pm

zorg wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:57 pmWe all know Musk isn’t a real Nazi, but he’s fucking with people, because he rules the world right now and is a small dicked idiot.

enframed wrote:I don't think he's a Nazi.

At minimum he's a Nazi sympathizer...

Andrew Torba quipped while sharing the clip: "Incredible things are happening already lmao."

Keith Woods opined: "OK maybe woke is really dead."

Thomas Sewell bellowed: "Donald Trump white power movement"

...then there is Sebastian Gorka and Stephen Miller in Trump's cabinet with Musk holding down his own office down the hall. Nazi sympathizer.

Of those folks I only know who Stephen Miller is, and he's a piece of shit, yeah. Maybe I shouldn't opine because I'm not on X (and never will be), and therefore not up on all the new shit that comes to light.

Hex wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:18 pmHonestly, how the fuck are some of you still this naïve after the last 8+ years??? He supports fascist policies, likes and comments on posts made BY Nazis, does a literal sieg heil salute at the inauguration, like if it walks, talks, acts like a duck, it's a fucking duck.

For real.

The whole debate over Roman salute, autism yadda yadda is like the people who split hairs over using the word genocide in reference to the mass murder of Palestinians. I think they're afraid to accept that terrible things are happening and that they've cosigned it again and again, so they have to play word games to distract from their craven cowardice. And those are the relatively good people! The rest are just Nazoid fashits trying to move the Overton window and all that.

He knows what he did, and the proof is that he edited the salute out of the cut of his speech he posted on X. He spliced in a real-time crowd reaction.

Another thing. He thanks the audience for saving civilization.

Musk is clearly a far right asshole. But his really weird public behaviour and speaking cadence really speaks of mental illness and Asbergers, possibly drug dependency. The weirdly desperate need for approval, the near zero empathic responses, emotional retardation (I mean that technically, not pejoratively). I’ve met a few people with Asbergers over the years and they’re all fallen in to extreme libertarianism and are generally what neurotypical people would call assholes. The plural of anecdote isn’t data but there is an analogue between high functioning ASD and an empathy deficiency that leans towards the far right - I regard libertarianism as a far right ideology - especially post social media rabbit holes.

Not an excuse, but a possible explanation. Zuck is also ASD. It would make be an interesting experiment to find out if Bezo, Thiel etc are also high functioning ASD.

Edit. I just searched Thiel, Autism… surprise! Yes.

The flip side of course is Thunberg…

sigh
don’t have the energy to debunk all this shit. There are plenty of assholes who aren’t autistic, plenty who are, it’s beyond exhausting to have to keep fighting the “autism is correlated to low empathy” bs that’s been repeated over and over again for decades. There are scores of left-wing autistic people, a lot of them in trans/queer communities.

Pathologizing trans people, pathologizing autistic people, it just never fucking ends.

Hitler's notorious drug abuse stemmed from him being a mentally unwell smol bean.

As I said the counter is people line Thunberg.
As for other groups, I’m not a doctor and already slipped in to cod psychology above.

This study is an interesting counter to my probably poor reasoning.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/aut.2023.0192

That ASD primes people for potential environmental factors that lead to extreme and non normative positions.

Hex wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:18 pmJesus fucking christ I can't believe I had to type all that. If you are still defending this asshole at this point, just fuck off already. Him and the people and policies he supports have hurt and killed so many of my loved ones already through their hate, you don't need to give him the fucking benefit of the doubt, he isn't going to be your fucking friend

Yeah, there really isn't any doubt for us to give benefit to at this point. And he doesn't really give a shit one way or another.