Crime of the Century: Iraq

Ty Webb_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

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clocker bob wrote:New info on the Lancet study that began this thread:

I read that article yesterday. When asked how they could praise the methodology as close to best practice but deny the results, answers were predictably vague.

The only semi-credible criticism of the methodology was so-called "main street bias," that is that families polled lived on streets that were more likely to experience attacks, thus skewing the figures. But I find it hard to believe it could skew the figures by many hundreds of thousands. You're still talking about roughly 2% of the country dead.

That would be the equivalent of 6 million dead here. It's overwhelming.

You had me at Sex Traction Aunts Getting Vodka-Rogered On Glass Furniture

clocker bob_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

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Ty Webb wrote:That would be the equivalent of 6 million dead here. It's overwhelming.

It's mind blowing. And then add in the injured today and the injured tomorrow from depleted uranium, even the unborn from the DU- another couple of million probably.

iraq: the hidden story on google video. Channel 4 documentary about the carnage of war, as it isn't shown on US televison. It's a couple years old at this point, but it's not like anything has changed in those two years.

lemur68_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

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Ty Webb wrote:
That would be the equivalent of 6 million dead here. It's overwhelming.

And we all know who killed 6 million people.

clocker bob_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

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Scottish Guardsman is speaking out on what he saw in Iraq and Afghanistan:

UK Independent April 8, 2007 wrote: Ex-army officer: troops are dying in Iraq for a 'doomed project'

A former captain in the Scots Guards who has served in Afghanistan and Iraq describes both operations as a political and military shambles in a book to be published next week.

Leo Docherty, 30, was formally reprimanded six months ago for breaking the Army's code of silence by criticising the top brass for a catalogue of failures in both countries. He left the Army disillusioned and under a cloud in September, but now risks further ire from his former masters by publishing an account of his time in Iraq and Afghanistan, called Desert of Death.

Mr Docherty, who speaks five languages, including Arabic and Pashto, became a captain in 2001 and was deployed to Basra in Iraq in November 2004. "None of us in the officers' mess believed in the weapons of mass destruction nonsense - we all saw that as a kind of pretext," he said.

full article

Andrew L_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

45 by Andrew L_Archive

No shit.

cocksure_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

46 by cocksure_Archive

Uhm, guys... like, are you sure.

The US military has embarked on a new and risky strategy in Iraq by arming Sunni insurgents in the hope that they will tackle al-Qaida operatives in Iraq.

The US high command this month gave permission to its officers on the ground to negotiate arms deals with tribal elders and other local leaders. Arms, ammunition, body armour and other equipment, as well as cash, pickup trucks and fuel, have already been handed over in return for promises to turn on al-Qaida and not attack US troops.

The US military in Baghdad is trying to portray the move as arming disenchanted Sunnis rising up in their neighbourhoods against their former allies, al-Qaida and its foreign fighters. But the reality on the ground is more complex, with little sign that the US will be able to control the weapons once they are handed over.

The danger in the US strategy is that the insurgents could eventually use these weapons against American troops or in the civil war against Shia Muslims. Similar efforts by the US in other wars have often backfired, the most spectacular being the arming of guerrillas against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2100597,00.html

Good to see they've at least got the liberal labor initiatives going simultaneously though. Open the Labor section of your local paper for further developments.

Oh wait...

Colonel Panic_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

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Gen Bargewell found that the marines had not identified targets properly...

larsro_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

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hola!

an open invitation for all bands / musicians / people interested in lending a hand, foot, short set, or organizing/wordspreading energy to pitch in to 5 MILLION PEACE MARCH 2007:

http://www.5millionpeacemarch.org
http://www.myspace.com/5millionpeacemarch.org

the main march & concert will be on Jerusalem, with parallel events (insh'Allah) in NYC, London, Kobenhavn, & Ottawa.

we have a foot in the door for at least 1 Jerusalem venue, but all the other cities' venues are lagging in getting back to us, so PLEASE let me know if you can swing any weight in one of those 4 cities (or host a house show, why not?)!

as for the date, the grand finale shindigs will either be Sun., 15 July, or Sun., 22 July (hopefully to be finalized before the sun goes down).

CHEERS! GRACIAS IN ADVANCE!

larsro_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

49 by larsro_Archive

hola!

i hereby repeat my open invitation for all bands / musicians / people interested in lending a hand, foot, short set, or organizing/wordspreading energy to pitch in to 5 MILLION PEACE MARCH 2007, 13-15 July:

http://www.5millionpeacemarch.org
http://www.myspace.com/5millionpeacemarch.org

the main march & concert will be on Jerusalem, with parallel events in NYC, London, Kobenhavn, & hopefully Ottawa, though no confirmation on that front yet...

the Jerusalem venue question is still a bit shady but SOMETHING will pan out (and me having just arrived in Palestina will definitely help). the London show is at The Slaughtered Lamb, and i'm waiting for confirmation from Vox Pop in Brooklyn that we can have the NYC show there. MC Lars just signed on, and i think he has quite a draw, so maybe we can even twist a bigger venue's arm to let us have it there albeit the short notice (other tentative acts are 1001 Ways (CH), Liz MADDEN (IRE), Cypher:Dissident (Ithaca), David MARTINEZ (TX), & A Willpowa Experience (NYC)). it looks like the Kobenhavn show will be a daytime, outdoors affair chez FredsVagt Christiansborg in front of the Danish Parliament.

if any of you are interested in helping me concretize the NYC show, or land an Ottawa show, get in touch!

as for the date, the grand finale shindigs will generally be Sun., 15 July, although last i heard from Alexander at Vox Pop he was suggesting Fri. 13 July.

CHEERS! GRACIAS IN ADVANCE!

Cranius_Archive

Crime of the Century: Iraq

50 by Cranius_Archive

Saw this harsh/curious condemnation from the ex-commander of coalition forces in Iraq today:

"There is no question that America is living a nightmare with no end in sight"...

....A former US military chief in Iraq has condemned the current strategy in the conflict, which he warned was "a nightmare with no end in sight".

Retired Lt Gen Ricardo Sanchez also labelled US political leaders as "incompetent" and "corrupted".

He said they would have faced courts martial for dereliction of duty had they been in the military.

A former US military chief in Iraq has condemned the current strategy in the conflict, which he warned was "a nightmare with no end in sight".

In what context was Sanchez speaking?

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