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same wrote:

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:

gcbv wrote:So let's just cry together and eat ice cream.

Fuck emo and fuck Häagen-Daz.

Why don't don't you go write a song about it Chris?

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:Screw record labels.
I want someone like Topps, Fleer or Upper Deck to release our band's records.

John C3 wrote:If Ian Mackaye did a Starbucks advert would you still think he was cool? He's paid his dues, right?

Skronk wrote:

losthighway wrote:1. Sonic Youth's last three albums are a waste of time.

Fixed it for you.

Sonic Youth is running the risk of becoming a parody, if they aren't already. Why are we still giving a shit about Sonic Youth?

lemur68 wrote:

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:Screw record labels.
I want someone like Topps, Fleer or Upper Deck to release our band's records.

slowriot wrote:

lemur68 wrote:

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:Screw record labels.
I want someone like Topps, Fleer or Upper Deck to release our band's records.

is your band called the billy ripkins?

Mandroid2.0 wrote:

John C3 wrote:If Ian Mackaye did a Starbucks advert would you still think he was cool? He's paid his dues, right?

Actually, my art school friend saw Ian in a D.C. Starbucks, and it broke his sweet, idealistic little straightedge heart. Poor guy.

ERawk wrote:I like Sonic Youth for their music; definitely one of the more consistent bands in terms of quality, in my opinion. Their Central Park SummerStage concert in 2002 was one of the most memorable concerts I have ever seen. However, they can sometimes rub me the wrong way; certain passages in Our Band Could Be Your Life, make them out to be obnoxious name-droppers for the sake of showing how cultured they are (mostly TM and KG). I like what a fair amount of people consider to be "culture" but at the same time, I'm not going to labor myself into making sure I drop the right names and movements to certain people.

As for the whole Starbucks thing, I don't know how true this is, considering that artists in the past have pulled Pitchfork's chain but at the same time, Starbucks looking to reach out to a younger demographic that is more "street savvy" is not entirely out of the question. Maybe they are going to launch certain franchises that have a more "edgy" look and feel, comparable to a Filter or a Verb Cafe type of place. Has Starbucks announced this partnership on the web site? Will SY post something on their official (I skimmed link to the thread entry)? I think when that happens, that will be a better sign than a Pitchfork interview.

John C3 wrote:Since you ask, when I work I work in libraries, institutions where the commodity is neither sold nor pushed and where only a disregard of the rules of sharing the commodity brings about an economic factor in the consumer's relation to the institution.

Let me get this straight, I'm a little unclear about this. Overdue fines at your library are enough to support a living wage? Exclusively (or is the "economic factor" you speak of one of many)? Your library is not getting funding from your respective government, which could partake in practices just as questionable as corporations (even on a local level), nor from other various patrons that could have possibly gandered their wealth from corporate ties (you know, blood money)? And if this is a library of a higher/secondary/primary education, your respective school/university/college doesn't accept donations from corporations if/when the taxpayers can't quite cut it (I'm not exactly sure if there is a comparable system to the American Public vs. Private system in the UK)? How thoroughly have you traced the money trail of your paycheck?

Synergy is a bitch, isn't it?