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Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:43 am
by Rotten Tanx_Archive
STF wrote:Cunt is the most offensive word in the English language, when directed at a woman. It's vile, degrading, and ugly.


Could you explain why?

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:46 am
by Marsupialized_Archive
mr.arrison wrote:
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Marsupialized wrote:god this shit is retarded


This quote design resembles a flaccid post-coital cock. With Marsupialized as the helmet.


I'm guessing pretty much everything you look at looks like a cock to you, you must spend a fortune at the dentist getting your chipped teeth fixed attempting to pleasure fire hydrants and stop signs and whatnot

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:57 am
by trilonaut_Archive
Rotten Tanx wrote:As for nigger. In some contexts (eg., at work) it's distressingly offensive. In other contexts (eg., a wu tang song) it's barrels of fun.


the latter is a different word -- it ends with an A instead of an ER.

i'm not even joking... the way people use the A ending vs. the ER ending is totally different.

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:05 pm
by STF_Archive
Rotten Tanx wrote:
STF wrote:Cunt is the most offensive word in the English language, when directed at a woman. It's vile, degrading, and ugly.


Could you explain why?


I'll give it a shot, though I'm no linguist or social scientist. Many slang terms directed at women have connotaions of sexual violence. Words like "hole" or "slut" (which comes from "slot") reduce women to a part, or to being an object that is the focus of sex and/or sexual violence. It dehumanizes them in a unique way. Cunt is more offensive than bitch because this word doesn't have those same connotations.

The same could be said for "nigger," that it's dehumanzing. But not in the same way. It's hateful and insulting and it reinforces an imbalance of power in society. But the word has lost much of its power because so many people use it casually or for humor.

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:09 pm
by kenoki_Archive
STF wrote:The same could be said for "nigger," that it's dehumanzing. But not in the same way. It's hateful and insulting and it reinforces an imbalance of power in society. But the word has lost much of its power because so many people use it casually or for humor.


people use the n-word casually and for humor?

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:13 pm
by STF_Archive
kenoki wrote:people use the n-word casually and for humor?


Rappers, comedians, white guys who say things like, "Nigga, please."

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:15 pm
by kenoki_Archive
STF wrote:
kenoki wrote:people use the n-word casually and for humor?


Rappers, comedians, white guys who say things like, "Nigga, please."


see trilonaut's post above re: the n-word vs. nigga. they really are quite different.

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:19 pm
by STF_Archive
kenoki wrote:
STF wrote:
kenoki wrote:people use the n-word casually and for humor?


Rappers, comedians, white guys who say things like, "Nigga, please."


see trilonaut's post above re: the n-word vs. nigga. they really are quite different.


No, they're not. I'm aware of what you're saying, but pronouncing it differently to indicate a different intent is a lame excuse. It's the same word.

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:22 pm
by Rotten Tanx_Archive
STF wrote:
I'll give it a shot, though I'm no linguist or social scientist. Many slang terms directed at women have connotaions of sexual violence. Words like "hole" or "slut" (which comes from "slot") reduce women to a part, or to being an object that is the focus of sex and/or sexual violence. It dehumanizes them in a unique way. Cunt is more offensive than bitch because this word doesn't have those same connotations.


That was a decent effort. I don't buy it at all though.

There is no direct relation between calling someone a cunt and sexual violence. The very idea seems bizarre to me.

It's a rude word and when someone's annoying we tend to insult them with rude words. Sexual violence and dehumanisation were not intended any of the 9 million times I've heard somebody called a cunt.

Most Offensive: Nigger vs. Cunt

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:25 pm
by kenoki_Archive
STF wrote:
kenoki wrote:
STF wrote:
kenoki wrote:people use the n-word casually and for humor?


Rappers, comedians, white guys who say things like, "Nigga, please."


see trilonaut's post above re: the n-word vs. nigga. they really are quite different.


No, they're not. I'm aware of what you're saying, but pronouncing it differently to indicate a different intent is a lame excuse. It's the same word.


no... you are incorrect. if you say to someone spitefully, "YOU FUCKING NIGGA!" it would seem almost absurd. the word nigga has no weight in that capacity. if you say, on the otherhand, "YOU FUCKING [n-word]!" you could be asking for a critical beat down.