I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:37 pm
sphincter wrote:alex maiolo wrote:Prog is prog.
Prog is prog? Are you sure?
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I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:34 pm
Come on guys... Progressive rock should be a positive thing, and not something for uberknobs and dungeon masters to lord over those with little knowledge.
As far as progressive rock being associated with d-bags, I would have to say the genre of music with the highest d-bag to cool ratio would have to be shoe gaze. Those guys spend all of their time on their looks and muck about with their delay pedal and play the same sort of thing. Us Yes-men were never arrogant, but these guys are so full of themselves for what? Strumming some d-bag not-even-a-chord guitar part over and over and wearing some shopping mall clothes and the same hair cut with the long bangs?
As far as punk destroying progressive rock, punk did a pretty good job of co-opting itself. Exhibit A:
Yes, Avril... That is one sinister jeep.
It was actually MTV that did us in. I know John Lydon would say how irrelevant we were back in 77 or so. What is he up to now?
No, MTV did us in. Even though Yes got the Buggles guy (Trevor Horn) to fill in when I left, it was of no use. We either had to change (90125, Big Generator) or look into other ways of making a living. Thanks to all of our fans for putting up with us when we played the MTV game for a few records. I still think some of those songs are quite decent.
Quite ironic that we had the singer for the very first video played on MTV, yet MTV did us in... eventually... we also had a good run.
Now we are back into making progressive rock, and we couldn't get on MTV if we paid them. They completely ignored the ladder, keys to ascension, and magnification. We could care less. We did fine without MTV and we are doing fine without them.
Progressive rock is nothing to get upset about. It's not fair to say progressive rock fans or performers are d-bags. Punk rock, indie rock, and alternative (particularly shoe gaze) have many more pricks involved. I have never made fun of John Lydon or punk rock. If you read Yes lyrics, they are all very positive. We are (except for Rick) vegetarians and anti-drug (though Rick and I did leave Yes after drinking way too much Calvados, and boy was that a mistake!). We are all about positive power and thought.
As far as progressive rock being associated with d-bags, I would have to say the genre of music with the highest d-bag to cool ratio would have to be shoe gaze. Those guys spend all of their time on their looks and muck about with their delay pedal and play the same sort of thing. Us Yes-men were never arrogant, but these guys are so full of themselves for what? Strumming some d-bag not-even-a-chord guitar part over and over and wearing some shopping mall clothes and the same hair cut with the long bangs?
As far as punk destroying progressive rock, punk did a pretty good job of co-opting itself. Exhibit A:
Yes, Avril... That is one sinister jeep.
It was actually MTV that did us in. I know John Lydon would say how irrelevant we were back in 77 or so. What is he up to now?
No, MTV did us in. Even though Yes got the Buggles guy (Trevor Horn) to fill in when I left, it was of no use. We either had to change (90125, Big Generator) or look into other ways of making a living. Thanks to all of our fans for putting up with us when we played the MTV game for a few records. I still think some of those songs are quite decent.
Quite ironic that we had the singer for the very first video played on MTV, yet MTV did us in... eventually... we also had a good run.
Now we are back into making progressive rock, and we couldn't get on MTV if we paid them. They completely ignored the ladder, keys to ascension, and magnification. We could care less. We did fine without MTV and we are doing fine without them.
Progressive rock is nothing to get upset about. It's not fair to say progressive rock fans or performers are d-bags. Punk rock, indie rock, and alternative (particularly shoe gaze) have many more pricks involved. I have never made fun of John Lydon or punk rock. If you read Yes lyrics, they are all very positive. We are (except for Rick) vegetarians and anti-drug (though Rick and I did leave Yes after drinking way too much Calvados, and boy was that a mistake!). We are all about positive power and thought.
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Songs cast a light on you
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In challenge as direct
As eyes see young stars assemble
Master of Light
All pure chance
As exists cross divided
In all encircling mode
Oh closely guided plan
Awaken in our heart
Master of Soul
Set to touch
All impenetrable youth
Ask away
That thought be contact
With all that's clear
Be honest with yourself
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I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:41 pm
Enough of that, I want to hear more about the Elf Culture.
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:12 pm
zom-zom wrote:Enough of that, I want to hear more about the Elf Culture.
Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf_Power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf_(band)
http://www.elftrauma.com/
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:12 pm
For all things elf-related, please refer to my solo record "Olias of Sunhillow". I play all of the instruments. It was truly a dream to record this record. I spent countless hours working on this, and finally got the sounds in my head down on tape. I am very happy telling the story of my elvish life:
http://www.elvish.org/
Dance, drink, love, live, and rejoice! We all have the power inside of us to see into the 4th dimension. When you do this, you will know that we are much bigger than ourselves. In my case, this is a good thing...
Elvish lyrics from Ocean Song wrote:DO GA RIYTAN SHA TOO RAYTAN
GAN MATTA SHA PA
MUTTO MATTO MUTTO
RADAN ATTO RADDAN ATTO
STOU TO MUTTO SHA GO TEKA
SHA GO TEKA
D E I
http://www.elvish.org/
Dance, drink, love, live, and rejoice! We all have the power inside of us to see into the 4th dimension. When you do this, you will know that we are much bigger than ourselves. In my case, this is a good thing...
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:18 pm
If you're the real Jon Anderson, what's your favourite Cheer-Accident album?
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:28 pm
I don't cheer for accidents. Accidents are quite an unfortunate thing. We should all hope to live our lives free of pain and in harmony with Sardë Tengwi. Meditation is key. It is the key to ascension. I have never been in a car accident, for an hour prior to embarking on a voyage, I will sit and meditate. I will meditate on the directions... 101N to Highway 1 Elendil Voronda Vanwa ná...Valimar I neri nar hallë. Getting my GPS nav unit to speak in Elvish was no easy task, but I am a pro audio producer, so it is within my grasp.
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:43 pm
If you're the real Jon Anderson, what's your favourite Cheer-Accident album?
I bet it's the one that sounds like the first two Yes lp's.
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:34 pm
Yeah, like the real Jon Anderson would say "d-bag".
I CHALLENGE STEVE ALBINI TO A PROG ROCK DISCUSSION
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:27 pm
lemur68 wrote:Yeah, like the real Jon Anderson would say "d-bag".
It's possible.
I have on good authority that he actually favors killing the whale too.
Sell out.
Drama was the best Yes record, dude.
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