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Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:56 pm
by Minotaur029_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:you and andrew and minotaur and antero and van pelt and big dave and scott and a dozen other panicked losers hunt for my posts.


It's not hard to find your posts. They just appear, like dog shit on a sidewalk.

It is you, like a crazy man, who hunts through virtually all the posts of his "enemies." You make the Nixon adminstration appear to be emotionally well-balanced by comparison.

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:04 pm
by Gramsci_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:So the next time I criticize banking and some moron like Minotaur 029 calls criticism of banking 'anti-semitic', can I expect you to rise up and tell the idiot that the majority of bankers are not Jews, so therefore, criticizing banking is not anti-semitic?


Perfect, ok, so there is no Jewish conspiracy banking or otherwise.

I'm glad we cleared that up.

You admitting you're wrong is a first. Bravo Bob, today you took a big step!

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:57 pm
by Minotaur029_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:
Gramsci wrote:Actually if I'm to be honest, I have no idea if a majority of banking professionals are Jewish. I'd image I was pretty much wrong.
So the next time I criticize banking and some moron like Minotaur 029 calls criticism of banking 'anti-semitic', can I expect you to rise up and tell the idiot that the majority of bankers are not Jews, so therefore, criticizing banking is not anti-semitic?


Your criticism of Jews is anti-Semitic. Do the Jews run the media? Do the Jews run the banks? Just what do they supposedly have "control" of according to you? You subscribe to the same old racial divisiveness we're used to. "White is black, black is white, Minotaur is somehow the anti-semite!"

Meanwhile, a politician like Obama has proved that you do not need to subscribe to the same divisive, muddied politics of years past. You do not need to behave in a political context like George W. Bush/Rick Reuben in order to succeed in the pursuit of truth. Obama has taken bullshit criticism and turned it on his head...and cynics like Rick Reuben who delighted in reveling in the pastor controversy can now shut the fuck up.

Taegan Goddard wrote:What would it be like if America actually had a president who knew how to write and speak?

After watching Sen. Barack Obama's brilliant speech this morning -- and seeing reports that he actually wrote it himself -- it makes you realize that a president can actually inspire an entire nation. It's been a long time since we had someone who could do that.


Obama is trying to cast off the political shackles locked into place by the Boomers and beyond. Yet, Rick Reuben would love to characterize Obama as another mere politicker who would make no difference in office. Rick Reuben loves the status quo, because the status quo creates a convenient soapbox to stand on. Openness is the enemy of the conspiracy theorist.

Taegan Goddard wrote:Sen. Barack Obama's speech on race this morning showed off exactly why he's become the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination. He's absolutely willing to challenge the conventional way of how politicians approach controversy. In my opinion, it was the best speech so far in this campaign.


This isn't your same old deceiver in the vein of George W. Bush/Rick Reuben.

Andrew Sullivan wrote:I have never felt more convinced that this man's candidacy - not this man, his candidacy - and what he can bring us to achieve - is an historic opportunity. This was a testing; and he did not merely pass it by uttering safe bromides. He addressed the intimate, painful love he has for an imperfect and sometimes embittered man. And how that love enables him to see that man's faults and pain as well as his promise. This is what my faith is about. It is what the Gospels are about. This is a candidate who does not merely speak as a Christian. He acts like a Christian.


But Rick Reuben will do anything he can to try and pass Obama off as just another politician. Why would someone so bloodthirsty for "revolution" be so threatened by someone who wants to open up Cuba? Why be so hostile to someone who wants to change the American approach to foreign policy in general?

Why does Rick Reuben want to see John McCain/the status quo in the White House so badly?

Charles Murray wrote:Has any other major American politician ever made a speech on race that comes even close to this one? As far as I'm concerned, it is just plain flat out brilliant -- rhetorically, but also in capturing a lot of nuance about race in America. It is so far above the standard we're used to from our pols.


Ben Smith wrote:A smart colleague notes that this speech is the polar opposite of this year's other big speech on faith, in which Mitt Romney went to Texas to talk about Mormonism, but made just one reference to his Mormon faith. Obama mentions Wright by name 14 times.


Barack Obama does not run from criticism like Rick Reuben. Obama calls the Chicago Tribune in order to discuss Tony Rezko and his failings regarding their financial indiscretions. While Rick Reuben closes up and changes the subject when he has been proved incorrect, Barack Obama actually confronts issues that could just as easily be left alone.

At every convoluted crossroad, Barack Obama succeeds politically in such a way that would make Ronald Reagan jealous.

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:00 pm
by AnthonyVillalobos_Archive
stewie wrote:I had to go visit the INS again today, and I was stuck in the waiting room for an hour, with Fox News playing loudly on TVs in every corner of the ceiling (yes, it's as annoying as you can imagine).

For the entire hour they had Pastor Wright's "God Damn America" clip playing on infinite loop, only breaking for a few ads and for some commentators to talk over the clip with phrases like, "That's it, Obama's done...".

As I left the waiting room I heard the reporter say, "Coming up in the next hour - more analysis of Obama's Pastor's hate-America comments!"

Jesus H. Christ. Who gives a fuck what this idiot religious whackjob said.


I don't neccessarily think Wright is a religious whackjob, he's just angry, which he has every right to be, and the shit he says carries a lot of weight but also a lot of legitimacy. Words the majority of Americans don't like hearing because noone likes being called on their shit especially when it goes against the grain of everything they were conditioned to respect and love. Fox News is over the top ridiculous. Fox News, now that network employs some religious whack jobs.

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:58 am
by Mammothiphallitron_Archive
It is fake "change". The person I'm voting for again is Ralph Nader. He is the only opposition to the corporate control of the United States and the only candidate(will be soon) to have Bush and Cheney impeached. I voted for him the last presidential election and I can't see myself voting for anyone else who is just part of the media's propaganda and will not do a damn thing to change America by promoting "Change". It's not in our constitution to only have a bipartisan democracy and the Hillary/Obama-McCain battle is only a distraction from the real freedom America's people have as voters.

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:14 am
by unarmedman_Archive
When people discuss Barack Obama they always get into what I like to call meta-politics. Did he seems Presidential? Does he handle criticism with grace? Does he seem like a leader? Will he unite our divided country? And so on, lots of questions that can keep you talking about him for awhile without actually saying anything about policy. And we call this politics.

Courtesy of Webster's:
Main Entry: pol·i·tics
Pronunciation: \ˈpä-lə-ˌtiks\
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology: Greek politika, from neuter plural of politikos political
Date: circa 1529

1 a: the art or science of government b: the art or science concerned with guiding or influencing governmental policy c: the art or science concerned with winning and holding control over a government
2: political actions, practices, or policies
3 a: political affairs or business; especially : competition between competing interest groups or individuals for power and leadership (as in a government) b: political life especially as a principal activity or profession c: political activities characterized by artful and often dishonest practices
4: the political opinions or sympathies of a person
5 a: the total complex of relations between people living in society b: relations or conduct in a particular area of experience especially as seen or dealt with from a political point of view <office politics> <ethnic politics>


So politics = policy.

Why do people seem content to sit around and talk about his pastor, or his posture, or his speaking ability, or his so-called 'unity' factor, or Hillary's crying, or Bush's smirk, or Cheney's grunt, or....

Can we finally start talking about what these people are going to do for and with our country in terms of policy, and not some Kumbaya he's-the-man sort of tripe?

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:52 am
by Heeby Jeeby_Archive
liberals. elites. gutless liberals. conspiratorial elites. the standard of political debate is suffering due to the adoption of absolutely redundant, retarded terms like these.

there is no secret grove-in-the-woods, jew-controlled, international secret fucking conspiracy. there is a group of people who own a lot and wield much power. they are called the rich. they've been fucking the poor over for years.

I think unarmed man has a very valid point. i've been following the democratic primaries and have seen very little emphasis on policies and vision. Way too much talk about race, gender and religion.

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:48 am
by Heeby Jeeby_Archive
on a side note one of hip-hops greatest thinkers has weighed in on this most hard-fought primary

DMX wrote
In the interview he says, "Barack?! What the f**k is a Barack? Barack Obama. Where he from (sic), Africa?"

When advised the Illinois senator's father was Kenyon, he says, "What the f**k? That ain't no f**kin' name, yo. That ain't that n**ga's name. You can't be serious. Barack Obama. Get the f**k outta here."

The 37-year-old explained his lack of knowledge, stating he "ain't really paying much attention" to the bitter battle between Obama and Hillary Clinton to become the democrat candidate.


WTF??

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:23 am
by slincire_Archive
Heeby Jeeby wrote:there is no secret grove-in-the-woods, jew-controlled, international secret fucking conspiracy.


Well, there is the Bohemain Grove.

"If I were to choose the speech that gave me the most pleasure and satisfaction in my political career, it would be my Lakeside Speech at the Bohemian Grove in July 1967. Because this speech traditionally was off the record it received no publicity at the time. But in many important ways it marked the first milestone on my road to the presidency." — President Richard Nixon


Supposedly policy is not discussed there, but I somehow doubt this is just a bunch of rich and powerful men blowing off steam.

Will Obama Condemn Starvation Caused By Lords Of Capital?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:55 am
by Heeby Jeeby_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Obama is the coffee-colored pacifier of toddler-brained fake liberals. The change agent of investment bankers, brokerages, giant law firms, big media and fellow elitists.

Oh, I get it. He's just like Ralph Nader, except for who has purchased him.

When given a choice between rallying behind a candidate who will fight for the lower classes and a candidate who is owned by the upper classes, the fake liberals will decide their choice based on all that matters to them: being on the winning side in an election. And that's why Naders lose and Obamas win- the media tells the dumb liberals 'Nader can't win', the liberals say, 'Nader can't win', the liberals say, 'we want to win', the media says, 'here, take this guy', the liberals say 'thank you'.

Then the media makes the fake liberals feel all gooey and wonderful inside for their lame sellout choice of another corporate Democrat.

Sucky sucky on your coffee-colored pacifier, fake liberals. Your economy is being dismantled. In five years, Heeby Jeebys will still be telling you that there is no organized plan behind any of the globalist miseries.

The rich have got you by the short hairs, and it's *all* according to plan. You don't buy a latte in the morning unless an elite has decided that you should all buy lattes, and then organized society to make you all buy lattes.

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The same guy who makes this complaint:
heeby jeeby wrote: i've been following the democratic primaries and have seen very little emphasis on policies and vision.

Also can't figure out why that happens.

Want the answer? It's because sellout liberals are easy marks.


coffee-coloured pacifier?? why mention his skin colour? why? a little bit of racism thrown in for good measure?

wtf is the latte comment about? makes no sense.

all this just because you're racist, honest-to-goodness-gun-toting, nutjob, whacko Ron Paul didn't get the nod? theres some shit the mainstream media was afraid to say....Ron Paul is a nut. a complete fucking nut.

Sellout liberals?? again you're unclear in your terminology. define sellout liberal.
Now where in my post did you see me endorse Barack Obama/Hilary Clinton/The Democratic Party in general??? Quote that shit for me. Find the truth!!!























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