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Rotten Tanx wrote:

H-GM wrote:This thing:

Dude! You think higher production values or better musicianship would make this record more palatable?

Didn't they/he release an EP of someone taking a shit? Is this album a step down from that?

Higher production values? Yes

Better musicianship? No

When I listen to it I'm always struck by how it would sound a million times better if I was experiencing it live, or it was documented more appropriately. Maybe that's just it, though, you had to be there.

I have no idea about the EP, but am very interested. Thanks for the heads up!

DregsInTheCrowd wrote: the first two Royal Trux albums, and maybe all of them.

Definitely Twin Infinitives. I can't think of a better record to fit what I think meets the criteria for disaster here. Almost completely inscrutable (OK, completely), awe-inspiring, and just plain fucked up. Junkies bangin' junk, wow.

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:Does Wowee Zowee fit this description?

No, because no Pavement album is anyone's favorite.

I hyperbolize; I kind of like the one with the red cover, Crooked Pain or something.

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:Does Wowee Zowee fit this description?

I don't think so. If memory serves, Wowee Zowee was the one where they sprawled out a bit all over the place, right? That was just them trying different styles out. (I don't remember it too well, though, so your definitions may be different than mine.)

When I say "disaster," I mean: either a record in an artist's discography that sticks out like a sore thumb because it seems they had no idea what they were doing at the time (like Pink Floyd's Ummagumma, which is a double album of early, post-Syd Barrett live recordings and studio fuckaround), or records that are just totally fucked up (like Throbbing Gristle's Second Annual Report).

See, I always saw Wowee Zowee as the record where Pavement came together and started working as a BAND. That it was the maybe the only album they did that didn't sound like "SM/Spiral First, Band Second." That the songs were formed out of group ideas... maybe I'm wrong and maybe the disaster element is why i love it over all the other Pavement records? I just sense more camaraderie on that record...

McCartney--McCartney II

jesus christ, there are some "burners" there, but wooh-wee, its like a PSA against Thai Stick or something.

"end of the century"

that damned fly wrote:"end of the century"

Who is this by?

what about the velvet underground live at max's kansas city?

i love it but it was never meant to be an album. just recorded by a fan with a tape recorder. they played different sets then they had been playing for a while including a bunch of stuff that 16 year old drummer billy yule had never played before. there's that guy talking throughout the whole thing (get me a double pernod). lou reed quit the band right after they got offstage. all in all a strange night but a pretty cool album.

I'd also nominate Marvin Gaye's Here, My Dear. It didn't sell well, and it was seventy-plus minutes of Marvin in a drug-induced haze verbally mutilating his ex-wife over, at first listen, seemingly interchangeable disco grooves. Prime disaster material.