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Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

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Angus Jung wrote:
matthew wrote:Please refer to the chapter entitled "The Flight of Reason" in the British historian Paul Johnson's book "Intellectuals" for a very good synopsis of Chomsky.


This book is a dumb smear job by a right-wing hack.

Ignore.


Is this the same Paul Johnson that:

....advised Margaret Thatcher on her changes to legislation concerning trade unions after her victory in the general election of 1979.

... has openly expressed admiration for General Franco and General Pinochet.

...is a critic of the enlightenment because of its implicit disavowal of faith and also finds Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution objectionable for the same reason.

...views the Bible as containing the literal truth of God.

...[had a] twelve-year sado-masochistic affair with another journalist, Gloria Stewart, in which he enjoyed having his bare bottom spanked for being a "naughty boy".

...has defended Richard Nixon in the Watergate scandal, finding his cover-up considerably less heinous than Bill Clinton's perjury, and Oliver North in the Iran-Contra Affair.

...[expresses] distaste for modern art, which he dismisses as "fashion art", and for the work of Picasso in particular.


And apparently goes by the nickname Paul 'Loonybins' Johnson.

He sounds great.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

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From a recent interview with Chomsky.

What’s happening is something completely new in the history of the hemisphere. Since the Spanish conquest the countries of Latin America have been pretty much separated from one another and oriented toward the imperial power. There are also very sharp splits between the tiny wealthy elite and the huge suffering population. The elites sent their capital, took their trips, had their second homes, sent their children to study in whatever European country their country was closely connected with. I mean, even their transportation systems were oriented toward the outside for export of resources and so on.

For the first time, they are beginning to integrate and in quite a few different ways. Venezuela and Cuba is one case. MERCOSUR, which is still not functioning very much, is another case. Venezuela, of course, just joined MERCOSUR, which is a big step forward for it and it was greatly welcomed by the presidents of Argentina, Brazil.

For the first time the Indian population is becoming politically quite active. They just won an election in Bolivia which is pretty remarkable. There is a huge Indian population in Ecuador, even in Peru, and some of them are calling for an Indian nation. Now they want to control their own resources. In fact, many don’t even want their resources developed. Many don’t see any particular point in having their culture and lifestyle destroyed so that people can sit in traffic jams in New York.

Furthermore, they are beginning to throw out the International Monetary Fund (IMF). In the past, the US could prevent unwelcome developments such as independence in Latin America, by violence; supporting military coups, subversion, invasion and so on. That doesn’t work so well any more. The last time they tried in 2002 in Venezuela, the US had to back down because of enormous protests from Latin America, and of course the coup was overthrown from within. That’s very new.

If the United States loses the economic weapons of control, it is very much weakened. Argentina is just essentially ridding itself of the IMF, as they say. They are paying off the debts to the IMF. The IMF rules that they followed had totally disastrous effects. They are being helped in that by Venezuela, which is buying up part of the Argentine debt.

Bolivia will probably do the same. Bolivia’s had 25 years of rigorous adherence to IMF rules. Per capita income now is less than it was 25 years ago. They want to get rid of it. The other countries are doing the same. The IMF is essentially the US Treasury Department. It is the economic weapon that’s alongside the military weapon for maintaining control. That’s being dismantled.

All of this is happening against the background of very substantial popular movements, which, to the extent that they existed in the past, were crushed by violence, state terror, Operation Condor, one monstrosity after another. That weapon is no longer available.

Furthermore, there is South-South integration going on, so Brazil, and South Africa and India are establishing relations.

And again, the forces below the surface in pressing all of this are international popular organizations of a kind that never existed before; the ones that meet annually in the world social forums. By now several world social forums have spawned lots of regional ones; there’s one right here in Boston and many other places. These are very powerful mass movements of a kind without any precedent in history: the first real internationals. Everyone’s always talked about internationals on the left but there’s never been one. This is the beginning of one.

These developments are extremely significant. For US planners, they are a nightmare. I mean, the Monroe Doctrine is about 180 years old now, and the US wasn’t powerful enough to implement it until after the 2nd World War, except for the nearby region.

After the 2nd World War it was able to kick out the British and the French and implement it, but now it is collapsing. These countries are also diversifying their international relations including commercial relations. So there’s a lot of export to China, and accepting of investment from China. That’s particularly true of Venezuela, but also the other big exporters like Brazil and Chile. And China is eager to gain access to other resources of Latin America.

Unlike Europe, China can’t be intimidated. Europe backs down if the United States looks at it the wrong way. But China, they’ve been there for 3,000 years and are paying no attention to the barbarians and don’t see any need to. The United States is afraid of China; it is not a military threat to anyone; and is the least aggressive of all the major military powers. But it’s not easy to intimidate it. In fact, you can’t intimidate it at all. So China’s interactions with Latin America are frightening the United States. Latin America is also improving economic interactions with Europe. China and Europe now are each other largest trading partners, or pretty close to it.

These developments are eroding the means of domination of the US world system. And the US is pretty naturally playing its strong card which is military and in military force the US is supreme. Military expenditures in the US are about half of the total world expenditures, technologically much more advanced. In Latin America, just keeping to that, the number of the US military personnel is probably higher than it ever was during the Cold War. There sharply increasing training of Latin American officers.

The training of military officers has been shifted from the State Department to the Pentagon, which is not insignificant. The State department is under some weak congressional supervision. I mean, there is legislation requiring human rights conditionalities and so on. They are not very much enforced, but they are at least there. And the Pentagon is free to do anything they want. Furthermore, the training is shifting to local control. So one of the main targets is what’s called radical populism, we know what that means, and the US is establishing military bases throughout the region.


The rest here.

Chomsky is really remarkable. He seems, at this point, totally irreplaceable as a "public intellectual."

Exciting things are afoot in Latin America. I only hope the cult of personality and influence of Chavez recedes.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

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danmohr wrote: Subsequently, I've come to realize that all of his heavy-duty thinking just sort of falls apart once you leave the classroom (or the metro area) and actually try to apply it to the real world. Some would conclude that this is merely a failure of reality to fall in line with the theorems; I've concluded otherwise.



It's easy to say that the solutions offered by Chomsky don't have real world applications, and, regrettably, that's 100% correct.

They are only valid in the academic world. You can speak them in a lecture hall or on public radio or in your coffee house, but when you take them out into the streets with the masses, the tanks roll them over or the mainstream media drowns you out or the cop shoots you in the head or you simply shout and shout and nobody lines up with you because they're either terrified, brainwashed, or ignorant.

The system is impervious to non-violent change. Chomsky advocates non-violent change. End of story. Put the ideas back in the books for the next generation to read them, agree with them, and then freeze up when they contemplate the thought of actually using them.

You can't defeat your enemies by becoming better informed than them- if you could, our enemies wouldn't allow us to get our hands on Chomsky.

American progressives have only one option, unless they're willing to slit throats and burn buildings and die in great numbers, and that is to find their way to that one room in the house where people read Chomsky and Zinn and Z Magazine and watch films like "The Corporation" and "Why We Fight", and you just stay there, drinking your Victory Gin, carefully observed like lab rats by the control apparatus.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

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DasWiso wrote:As a political writer...a little crap, anyone leaning too far to one side scares me



This has always bothered me. Why is it that "being in the middle" somehow assumes an open mind? Chomsky consistantly exposes lies and hypocracy with elementary truisms. That's all he does. It's very simple and it's what makes him very valuable.

It's also the reason that he is only challenged by lunatics that unintelligently ramble and grasp. Don't take my word for it....look it up. Try to find a rational contradicion to Chomsky's exposures of lies and hypocracy through elementary truisms. Comedy.

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