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Bet that SG could be saved

No opinion on whether it'd be worth it or whether that specific guitar is a real Gibson, but you can find other pictures of late-70s walnut SGs with that harmonica bridge and the switch in the same position.

endofanera wrote:twelvepoint wrote:Honestly, that SG with the reversed upper bout is starting to look kind of cool WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?It's like a weird, ugly, upside down Guild S-200. Except a lot less cool.To be fair, a weird, ugly, upside down S-200 IS a weird, ugly, upside down Guild.

chris jury wrote:twelvepoint wrote:Bet that SG could be savedpretty easy fix. I would take the time to build a jig, but it is a simple pass through the table saw and a glue up. You will lose about 1/16" due to the kerf, so you'd need to match as best you can in the front and reshape the back slightly to make it smooth. That or glue in a 1/16" filler strip. I think either way a refinish will be required to cover the sins. But a nice way to get a good player.I'd think a series of small holes to steam the glue joint free, no? Its probably more work, but far less wood taken out.

W.L.Weller wrote:Dr Tony Balls wrote:chris jury wrote:twelvepoint wrote:Bet that SG could be savedpretty easy fix. I would take the time to build a jig, but it is a simple pass through the table saw and a glue up. You will lose about 1/16 due to the kerf, so you'd need to match as best you can in the front and reshape the back slightly to make it smooth. That or glue in a 1/16 filler strip. I think either way a refinish will be required to cover the sins. But a nice way to get a good player.I'd think a series of small holes to steam the glue joint free, no? Its probably more work, but far less wood taken out.Depends on the glue used, right? Epoxy and cyanoacrylate don't release with steam the way hide glue (if the person who glued it backwards used hide glue, my hat is off to them) or regular wood glue do.This is true. Some wood glues are also water resistant, like Titebond II and III. However, I don't think II and III are necessarily heat resistant (can be verified by looking at their sheets), so perhaps a judicious use of steam and heat can undo this joint. Cyanoacrylates can be removed with acetone, but I don't know if you'll be able to undo a joint that big. If Epoxy was used, then the only way to undo the joint is by cutting through it.W.L.Weller wrote:What adhesives do the factories use to make 2+ piece bodies?Your guess is as good as anybody's, and if you stumble into the right internet forum, you'll find yourself in a questionable discussion about tone. Anyway, acoustic guitar makers most definitely use water-based glues. Solid body electric guitar makers - who knows? I know that some smaller ones use water based glues, but that's not reflective of all of them. I would guess that it comes down to cost. Epoxy is more expensive than water based glue, and water based glue works well for the job, so they probably use water based wood glues. Seeing how guitar making is an extension of wood working, and that 70 years ago there weren't very many kinds of glues, I would be bet that Leo Fender used wood glue for his bodies.

twelvepoint wrote:Honestly, that SG with the reversed upper bout is starting to look kind of cool WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?It's like a weird, ugly, upside down Guild S-200. Except a lot less cool.

JohnnySomersett wrote:chris jury wrote:twelvepoint wrote:Bet that SG could be savedpretty easy fix. I would take the time to build a jig, but it is a simple pass through the table saw and a glue up. You will lose about 1/16" due to the kerf, so you'd need to match as best you can in the front and reshape the back slightly to make it smooth. That or glue in a 1/16" filler strip. I think either way a refinish will be required to cover the sins. But a nice way to get a good player.Even worth it? Doesn't look to be a Gibson anyway (not one I've seen).It's an SG Firebrand (so named because the headstock has the logo kind of 'branded' into it as opposed to silk screened or inlaid on a black face plate). They're pretty nice guitars. They seem to be 2 or 3 piece bodies so I wonder if the mod was made because the body fell in 2 and the owner just flipped it for the fuck of it. Though the split does seem a bit close to the pickups.Could you not heat it up somehow to try and get the glue to give way and separate the two body chunks?

honeyisfunny wrote:JohnnySomersett wrote:chris jury wrote:twelvepoint wrote:Bet that SG could be savedpretty easy fix. I would take the time to build a jig, but it is a simple pass through the table saw and a glue up. You will lose about 1/16" due to the kerf, so you'd need to match as best you can in the front and reshape the back slightly to make it smooth. That or glue in a 1/16" filler strip. I think either way a refinish will be required to cover the sins. But a nice way to get a good player.Even worth it? Doesn't look to be a Gibson anyway (not one I've seen).It's an SG Firebrand (so named because the headstock has the logo kind of 'branded' into it as opposed to silk screened or inlaid on a black face plate). They're pretty nice guitars. They seem to be 2 or 3 piece bodies so I wonder if the mod was made because the body fell in 2 and the owner just flipped it for the fuck of it. Though the split does seem a bit close to the pickups.Could you not heat it up somehow to try and get the glue to give way and separate the two body chunks?Ahh, okay then. I just assumed it was some cheapo copy. In which case I'd agree...table saw then dowel and glue.

Honestly, that SG with the reversed upper bout is starting to look kind of cool WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?

Seems like a 1/16 kerf would be totally fine, especially compared to hacking the SG in the first place, and presumably refinishing the body. Even if you unglued it you'd have to joint the body pieces, which would itself remove some material.