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Dovey wrote:I swear by the D6... it definitely is a bit much of the boom and click metal thing if you're just using the D6 close-up and on it's own.That's why I need one...Boombats wrote:Anyone want to trade their D6 for my Beta 52?

I swear by the D6 but I'm almost always using it in tandem with something else for a more natural or full sound (usually a PZM a few feet away from the front of the kick), it definitely is a bit much of the boom and click metal thing if you're just using the D6 close-up and on it's own.

Studio:I remember listening to a kick mic shootout on front end audio's page years ago and was astounded how the B52 and D6 clips sounded atleast 50% to every kick drum sound I had ever gotten. Opened my eyes quiet a bit. I picked up a Beyerdynamic Opus99 and have never looked back. I hear virtually no coloration from the mic, what I hear playing the drum is what shows up on tape (for better or worse.) Live:Have not found an instance I would pick a D6 over a B52 or D112 on kick.

Used the D6 again last night for the second time. This time I put it further in the kick than I normally would and angled it towards the beater. Seemed to sound a lot more natural than last time. The kick had a bit of padding in it so this would have taken some of the edge off on the top end.

I found the D6 sounded ridiculous. Probably the way to go if you want a black metal sound and don't have access to drum triggers/module.The D112 is okay. Sometimes sounds a little weird.The Sennheiser is good. It's like the D6 taking about 5 steps back towards a real drum. Hyped, but not clownish.I like an AT 4047 outside, blended with a dynamic if it's a typical mix, or by itself if there is a lot of space and I just want to hear the thing booming with lots of mid and low, but not that clicky treble notch.

I second/third the Sennheiser e602 as a great mic to add to the arsenal of d112, d12, RE20, Beta52, etc. It's inexpensive and effective and will come in handy when the others don't work or a go-to mic. Lots of attack as well as beefy-ness IMHO.

The Sennheiser 600-series kick mic is dope shit. Grunke finally came and got his, now I have to get one of my own.

projectMalamute wrote:I've spent some time with the D112, RE20, Beta52, and D6. I've pretty much settled on the D112 and RE20. D112 for just a touch 'bigger than life' and RE20 for more natural.The Audix takes the all-boom-and-click concept to an insane level. Check out the frequency response on one of those things some time, from the bottom of the mid cut to the top of the presence peak is almost 20dB. A lot of live sound guys out here love them, and I get the attraction. If you want a super-hyped cannon of a kick drum sound it pretty much does it out of the box. I used one for a while when I was doing a lot of death metal shows. They are good for that.The Beta52 is somewhere between the D112 and the D6, but seems to have the worst qualities of both to my ear. I really don't like those things.Wow. I've just found a cheap deal on a Beta52 and for a second got excited. Then I heard it in some videos and you've put it exactly how I feel. I just don't like the scooped sound. I don't like the Audix at all. Hate it, in fact.Can anyone recommend a large diaphragm dynamic with more of a flat response?

If you can come across one second hand, a Peavey microphone called the PVM520(I've also seen it listed as the 520i) might be in this ballpark.Here's the Peavy spec sheet:- https://assets.peavey.com/literature/manuals/80301951.pdfIf you are lucky, the owner might even still have the little hard case that they used to come in.

Beyer m88s sound good on kicks and fairly 'natural' but I wouldn't recommend putting it inside the drum.