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It’s not fucking aliens, it never was fucking aliens, and it probably never will be fucking aliens. It’s just hidden technology being used for nefarious purposes as humans have done since the first invention. All the little green men nonsense is just bait to keep us distracted from the fact that the world is, has, and always will be run by terrible people who traffic drugs and humans.

ChudFusk wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:40 am It’s not fucking aliens, it never was fucking aliens, and it probably never will be fucking aliens. It’s just hidden technology being used for nefarious purposes as humans have done since the first invention. All the little green men nonsense is just bait to keep us distracted from the fact that the world is, has, and always will be run by terrible people who traffic drugs and humans.

But what if they are using aliens to traffick drugs and humans?

ChudFusk wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:40 am It’s not fucking aliens, it never was fucking aliens, and it probably never will be fucking aliens. It’s just hidden technology being used for nefarious purposes as humans have done since the first invention. All the little green men nonsense is just bait to keep us distracted from the fact that the world is, has, and always will be run by terrible people who traffic drugs and humans.

I don't necessarily think it's Aliens, but I do think there's maybe something that's not us (maybe future us?) that's been around forever. Or maybe it's aliens. I don't think humans are smart enough (and have been for 80 years) to come up with some of the aircraft that now seem to be pretty widely accepted as real.

My 2 theories for what's happening right now -
US Government (and likely other countries as well) has been hiding this for us for 80 years both due to concern about how the public would react (aliens is one thing, but if this is future humans who have knowledge of how we're about to fuck everything up, or an ancient civilization that could decimate us in an instant, that's pretty fucked up) and also as an opportunity to profit of course.

This is more misinformation - it could be coming from US government, but I'm also wondering if this might be coming from a foreign power looking to destabilize the US. If Grusch (or another whistleblower) winds up dead, all of a sudden trust in the government is at an all time low, and with the number of right wing politicians more vocal about this, I wonder if there is an attempt to rile up a certain ammunition happy segment of the population.

BrendanK wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:16 am

ChudFusk wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:40 am It’s not fucking aliens, it never was fucking aliens, and it probably never will be fucking aliens. It’s just hidden technology being used for nefarious purposes as humans have done since the first invention. All the little green men nonsense is just bait to keep us distracted from the fact that the world is, has, and always will be run by terrible people who traffic drugs and humans.

I don't necessarily think it's Aliens, but I do think there's maybe something that's not us (maybe future us?) that's been around forever. Or maybe it's aliens. I don't think humans are smart enough (and have been for 80 years) to come up with some of the aircraft that now seem to be pretty widely accepted as real.

Antigravity research and development began in the early 20th century. Look at the work of Tesla and Marconi and what that led to. There are verified antigravity devices that basically repel from the earth's magnetic field, and those are just rickety triangular things built by college students. There's no reason to think that the billions of dollars poured into secret research haven't refined magnetic / vortex propulsion. We're certainly smart enough. The aliens part is just a new religion.

BrendanK wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:16 am This is more misinformation - it could be coming from US government, but I'm also wondering if this might be coming from a foreign power looking to destabilize the US. If Grusch (or another whistleblower) winds up dead, all of a sudden trust in the government is at an all time low, and with the number of right wing politicians more vocal about this, I wonder if there is an attempt to rile up a certain ammunition happy segment of the population.

The amount of right-wing fuckery I've experienced in various UAP groups is staggering. Glad to see this phenomenon finally being covered in more legitimate channels, but MAGA dolts expressing interest bums me out bigly. I hope instead of little gray men these future humans are actually highly-advanced/evolved little brown men. Man made Jesus Anglo-Saxon why not the same for intelligent intra-dimensional life?
Whichever the case I wii be as pleased as punch if disclosure ever happens if only to finally silence the voices of those who have aggressively sought to discredit the movement. Yes, I want to know with all accuracy if there is advanced alien life out there or in here, but I'm also petty.

rsmurphy: Some places or resources you can point me to if I wanna know what's up with the aliens stuff atm? Like I'm familiar with Jaques Vallée and Whitley Strieber but that's about it. Don't want to read walls of disjointed text if it can be avoided.

I'm not rsmurphy but if you're into podcasts at all, there's one called The UFO Rabbit Hole that has been a good catch up for me over the last few months.

kokorodoko wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:57 pm rsmurphy: Some places or resources you can point me to if I wanna know what's up with the aliens stuff atm? Like I'm familiar with Jaques Vallée and Whitley Strieber but that's about it. Don't want to read walls of disjointed text if it can be avoided.

Maybe I should take FM Brendan's cue and start listening to podcasts because I haven't found any one serious enough for my tastes on the Internet. A good standby is the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) and I also peruse the To The Stars Academy site.

Well.

DaveA wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 6:49 pmFor my money, this clip, from a few years back, is one of the weirder, more hair-raising ones...

FYI, this, as noted in the comments on YouTube, is almost certainly just contrails that have a darker hue, maybe from a less common (earthly) craft. The shifting angles and the disjointed way it's all cut together make it all look more suspect.


Can't really wade into most of the recent comments, though "cattle mutilations but people" isn't that convincing, sorry. At least in so far as them being instigated by aliens is concerned.