I love the Ramones very much. Seeing them in 1977 made me a much better person than I would have been otherwise. Their first three records represent the exact polar opposite of "crap" to me. How they have received thirteen "crap" votes on this forum is incomprehensible.

I can certainly see how they were important to people that grew up in the seventies etc, but it just so happened that I didn't and I never cared about the Ramones.

CRAP.

Not deep purple crap, but crap.

By the way I regularly get a lot of heat for this opinion among my peers, so not to worry.

OK, it's not quite so incomprehensible now, so thanks for the explanation; but with all due respect I am truly (if minorly) sorry to hear about this immense gaping void in your enjoyment of rock music.

ctrl-s wrote:OK, it's not incomprehensible any more, so thanks for the explanation; but with all due respect I am truly (if minorly) sorry to hear about this immense gaping void in your enjoyment of rock music.

Maybe this is the sad that is eating my heart!

But no.

I wanted to like them. I even bought some of their albums. But the fact is that I never feel the urge to listen to them.

So be it.

NOT CRAP !
I guess all of you know that The Ramones were big big big in Argentina. They played their last concert in front of 60.000 at the River Plate Stadium.

Absolutely NOT CRAP.

I just watched End Of The Century. It has affected me much more than I expected. It finally hit me, what I've been denying to myself: The Ramones are not around anymore. I always took them for granted.

I can't believe they're gone.

RAMONES FOREVER.

I don't understand what i'm supposed to be listening to, or for, with the Ramones. Or what part is supposed to be not boring.

Yes, they amounted to a degree zero of sorts for an entire generation of artists and musicians who built a lot of the groundwork which we blithely take for granted now. Even if you're of the imagine what popular music would sound like if there had been no Beatles and Dylan school, you couldn't possibly deny that their influence extends right into the very infrastructure which your argument is based from, as opposed a 'mere' stylistic topping for your pitchfork punk cake.

However, I still don't get it at all. Sorry.

Isabelle Gall wrote:I don't understand what i'm supposed to be listening to, or for, with the Ramones. Or what part is supposed to be not boring.

Yes, they amounted to a degree zero of sorts for an entire generation of artists and musicians who built a lot of the groundwork which we blithely take for granted now. Even if you're of the imagine what popular music would sound like if there had been no Beatles and Dylan school, you couldn't possibly deny that their influence extends right into the very infrastructure which your argument is based from, as opposed a 'mere' stylistic topping for your pitchfork punk cake.

However, I still don't get it at all. Sorry.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MWHAL_q1ne8

I see none of this as boring, as a matter of fact it is the exact opposite of boring...

i can't believe there are people who don't get the ramones.

your loss.