hi dragon. yeah, i'm listening to it right now. the guy's voice is kinda harsh but not that bad. kinda tom waits'ish. i'll give it time to grow on me before i get rid of it. i'll still try to find the milk one though.

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I am convinced that waltermalling's entire schtick is a pretty good Tony Clifton-styled joke.

It is simply impossible for any person to be so rude, uninformed and inarticulate.

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Your faith in humanity is a beautiful thing, sir. I pray that you are correct.
Thanks fer puttin' a little Tony C. in my day.

waltermalling wrote:hi dragon. yeah, i'm listening to it right now. the guy's voice is kinda harsh but not that bad. kinda tom waits'ish. i'll give it time to grow on me before i get rid of it. i'll still try to find the milk one though.

Safe As Milk is a lot easier to digest. Still the same crazy guy singing but the music is more "normal". Ry Cooder plays on it as well. You should be able to hunt down the Buddha Records version that has them bonus tracks. When you do, check out "Big Black Baby Shoes". I think it might be the first or second bonus cut on there. It might be the most amazing piece of music that I've ever heard.

thanks! i love the ry cooder stuff he did with the buena vista social club. also, paris texas is one of my favorite movies and he did the soundtrack for that.

Made Available is great... Fuggin great. Thats the Digi pack one thats kind of Orange and black... right? I do have that one...

I have all of em, i think... you got me going on them again. It's been a while since i listened to them last, and the Cd's are still stashed at my parents... I gotta go get them.

A new kind of water (...or Walter)

TheSwede,

I have the original "Deceit" LP on Piano records via Nathan Yeager. I think I traded the THESE records CD for it. What a sucker!

I let Neuser borrow my copy of the "BLUE/YELLOW" 1st CD on These and he did some sorta Neuser thing like: "yeah it's kinda cool... I dig some of it... I'm not giving it back"

So I don't have the first one any more. I wonder if'll give it back now. It's been like, 8 years.

I also scored "Made Available" on the vinyl too... great record.

Oh and there's also those two EPs. I think I have 'em... on 12".

Good, good stuff worth every penny and moment searching for them.

waltermalling wrote:capnreverb, you are a pathetic joke. nobody gives a damn about how you have to turn down. something tells me that if you were in a band gave a shit about, you’d probably have had a soundcheck. by being professional and doing one, you could’ve solved this problem ahead of time and not had the displeasure of being embarrassed and looking like a fool in front of everyone in the bar.

Wow, youre right.

I will keep your three golden rules in mind next time I go see a band play


1. Size of venue = quality of music
2. Band has option of soundcheck = must be good band
3. The more people that give a shit about your band= the better the band





i don't need a band to be "embarrassed and looking like a fool in front of everyone in the bar. " that comes naturally after 8 beers.

First off, i want to apologize for this thread being a "This Heat" thread at the same time when it is another really enjoyable chance to bash walter... could be as good as the time he pissed off the lady...

But yea... I can't remember if i do/or do not have the lil blue and white cd... Repeat? was that what it was called? Am i just crazy? It had that lil guy on it... but i never had the proper adapter to play it...

again sorry...

khallgren wrote:

Rog wrote:

capnreverb wrote:What does any of this have to do with me goddamn it! And the decibul meter?

...At one
time, the world record for the loudest band in the world was
held by Motorhead, at something like 125 decibels. ...you were playing just shy of Motorhead levels, in which
case, I salute you.

The decibel scale is logarithmic and the difference between 106 and 125 is much greater than it might appear at first glance. I'm surprised toomanyhelicopters didn't comment on this--isn't he some type of sound technician or some junk? Anyways the apparent difference would be about a 20% increase from 106 to 125, but in reality the difference is much greater.

yeah, if i was perusing the site, i woulda jumped on this immediately. 106dB and 125dB are *very* different sound pressure levels. 106 is still pretty crazy loud, but not as ridiculous as 125.

the whole SPL meter thing is a joke. was he using A-weighting or C-weighting? and where was he standing to measure the level? the right way to do it would be to take an SLM that lets you measure SEL and sweep it around the room slowly, so you're actually getting an average of the SPL all throughout the interior of the room, alleviating the huge range of readings you could get based on something as simple as reflected sound or room modes or stuff like that.

in short, yeah, the SPL meter thing is a bit of a farce. BUT, at the same time, it *is* a relative indicator. if every band that plays there shows up as 94dB on their particular SLM, and then you guys read at 106dB, then yeah, you're probably way too loud by their standards.

how close was he to the house mains speaker? cause i'd be willing to bet that you could read 106 at any self-respecting rock concert if you stood right in front of the speaker. even if the diffuse SPL throughout the room was more like 94 or something, you could read 106 if you got close enough to the speaker.

long story long, when the folks at the club tell you it's too loud, if you wanna play there again, turn down. if you don't, then start smashing shit and lighting shit on fire. that's the best advice i can give.

the milford, weren't you there the night we blasted out that awful coffee house and the coppers came? Was that Journalism?