I think we're missing the main quesiton here: What other fruits or vegitables are perfectly formed to fit into human body parts?

Good point...

I image that depends on the person -Jesus loves us on an individual level don't you know. For example the orange maybe fits perfect up the ass of a young Catholic boy/girl after years of loosening up from Father O'Hare.

caix wrote:I think we're missing the main quesiton here: What other fruits or vegitables are perfectly formed to fit into human body parts?

someone paste the appropriate paragraphs from frank zappa book here.


btw, i've just bought and eaten 3 (yes, three! at once!) underpriced bananas, they were so delicious.

right now i'm eating an apple. it fits so well to my hand and it makes nice cracking sound when i bite it. the god, she knew what she was doing.

NerblyBear wrote:

Life is not teleological.

This seems to be a difficult idea for people to accept.

Some people have an incapacity for conceptual thought which no amount of information can conceal:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/264.asp

HOUSTON_M wrote:NerblyBear wrote:

Life is not teleological.

This seems to be a difficult idea for people to accept.

Some people have an incapacity for conceptual thought which no amount of information can conceal

Of course it's a difficult idea to accept. Denying that life has an intrinsic purpose forces us to come up with a purpose of our own. Such a task requires a good deal of willingness to criticize and experiment with socially-provided norms, which is seen as dangerous in religious circles.

My main beef with religion is that it provides people with a wholly-complete structure with which to organize their lives. Every decision is made for you by the rules of the game. Breaking out of these rules inevitably cuts you off from the religious community, and you're seen as a bad person. I've experienced this in my own life, and have lost friends because their dogmatic ideas about what is "normal" made them think I was a weirdo or a bad person.

This is why I absoutely cannot stand this hemming and hawing by people like Galanter: "Religious people are the norm, and, therefore, we should not describe them as ignorant or delusional. We need to be polite and civil to one another, and should refrain from alienating the large majority of our society."

Fuck that. Once we realize that we are totally free to experiment with possibilities and to live in unique ways, we can dispense with a lot of the social constraints that tie us down to ignorance. The first step on this path to liberation from conformity is the realization that the world wasn't created with a goal in mind.

Gramsci wrote:Ok, Matty. I've said this before, but I'll say it again just to clarify.

In the entire history of human knowledge a supernatural belief has never, ever, not once, even a little, trumped the physical universe as science understands it.

You are wrong. I cannot be more direct than that. Go do some dispassionate research on miracles which have been declared valid by the Catholic Church. Go view the tunic of Juan Diego in Mexico City. Go to Lourdes. Go and see the Shroud of Turin. Go and see an incorrupt body of a saint. Tell me how scientific procedure has explained these. Moreover these are not mere beliefs- these are real concrete things that one can see with one's eyes, Horatio.


And once again this thread is jacked...

matthew wrote:

Gramsci wrote:Ok, Matty. I've said this before, but I'll say it again just to clarify.

In the entire history of human knowledge a supernatural belief has never, ever, not once, even a little, trumped the physical universe as science understands it.

You are wrong. I cannot be more direct than that. Go do some dispassionate research on miracles which have been declared valid by the Catholic Church.

Wow.

I mean...wow.

Lourdes. Wow.

Fuckin Lourdes.

W-O-W

matthew wrote:Go and see the Shroud of Turin.

Dude, that's a good thousand years in the wrong direction.

no way am i gonna read all this, but i just thought i'd say, if you believe in Intelligent Design, you're an asshole. at best, a christian could say somethign liek, "god invented evolution."