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El Protoolio wrote:I always get a kick out of seeing men like Matthew tell women what they can and can not do with their reproductive abilities and chime in on a very complex issue with an absolutist position that abortion of any kind, under any circumstance, is evil. Matthew is a member of the American Taliban, who as a group are trying to control other people's sexuality, and impose their moral views because religious people just can't understand that us atheists learned morals without their sheepminded shit. They don't believe it, or have faith in it, if I may be silly about it. So they bully and bluster and eventually they legislate, and they expose themselves for the fascists that they really are. His idea of being different and confrontational, at least here, is to be a conservative cave man.

Please, please do not feed the trolls.


Abortion is murder per se. As an act it is inherently evil. One can never say that the act of ripping an unborn baby out of the mother is a good act. It is the act of taking innocent human life. Personal intent and disposition is another matter....................you see...............unlike a liberal I separate the sinner from the sin because the act and the disposition are two different things. Liberals tend to demonize people per se without much thought and see things in terms of black and white. Conservatives tend to examine the scenario before making a judgement on a person, and even then they do not demonize people, at least the non-kooky ones do. That is one significant way how we differ. For evidence of this, refer to the vitriol that has been posted in this thread.

Beyond that, the rest of your post is silliness what with your confession of atheism and your half-baked collegiate rhetorical nonsense.

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kerble wrote:
kerble wrote:liar.



you said you were done.


The discussion as it stood was an inbred assult upon my person by some individuals and thus I said farewell to those people, at least for while. They can join in again if they decide to stick to the issues and not do the old ad hominem. Tonight when viewing this thread I noticed that a new person or at least a person under a new handle had entered the fray and the direct discussion about abortion, and I commented upon his post. He or she had not spoken before and so I reiterated my stance to this person. I felt I as though I ought to, seein' as this person addressed me personally with not a small amount of anger and resentment. Now if this person is in fact someone who has posted before and now has to disguise his or her self under a different name, then I can only say that this is creepy and cowardly. Is it one of you?

Kerble, is this your board? Do you own it? You certainly sometimes act as though you do. Let's ask Russ or W. or Albini himself about that....see what they say. I can say what I want here as long as it is within the rules of the forum.

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matthew wrote:Kerble, is this your board? Do you own it? You certainly sometimes act as though you do. Let's ask Russ or W. or Albini himself about that....see what they say. I can say what I want here as long as it is within the rules of the forum.


quoting russ from the forum guideline thread:

russ wrote:3. If you make a post stating that you are leaving, you will be. If you make a poll asking if you should leave, and you lose, you will be.


from here, matthew wrote:

on Sun Feb 26, 2006 matthew wrote:I think I'll go away for awhile from this forum. I'll post again on November 21 of this year. Mark your calendars.


kerble wrote:please leave again, like you said you would, until November 21.


you can fuck off when you get back.


matthew wrote:.....as long as it is within the rules of the forum.




ok! goodbye!

Faiz
kerble is right.

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kerble wrote:
matthew wrote:Kerble, is this your board? Do you own it? You certainly sometimes act as though you do. Let's ask Russ or W. or Albini himself about that....see what they say. I can say what I want here as long as it is within the rules of the forum.


quoting russ from the forum guideline thread:

russ wrote:3. If you make a post stating that you are leaving, you will be. If you make a poll asking if you should leave, and you lose, you will be.


from here, matthew wrote:

on Sun Feb 26, 2006 matthew wrote:I think I'll go away for awhile from this forum. I'll post again on November 21 of this year. Mark your calendars.


kerble wrote:please leave again, like you said you would, until November 21.


you can fuck off when you get back.


matthew wrote:.....as long as it is within the rules of the forum.




ok! goodbye!

Faiz


You seriously need a life.......over forty six hundred posts here in like two years? That's not much of a life. Go tell Russ or W. or Albini to kick me off. Go right ahead. Unlike you, this is not my life and I really won't whine if they do. Sure I'll miss it, but I'm sure I'll get over it. I put conviction behind things that I post about that matter, but I also have fun and play the occasional ruse or prank and chastise people who provoke me. Go ahead. Be a hater and a stoolie, since this board is obviously such a major part of you raison d'etre.

Sincerely,

Matthew Wauck

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matthew wrote:You seriously need a life.......over forty six hundred posts here in like two years? That's not much of a life. Go tell Russ or W. or Albini to kick me off. Go right ahead. Unlike you, this is not my life and I really won't whine if they do. Sure I'll miss it, but I'm sure I'll get over it. I put conviction behind things that I post about that matter, but I also have fun and play the occasional ruse or prank and chastise people who provoke me. Go ahead. Be a hater and a stoolie, since this board is obviously such a major part of you raison d'etre.


that's the best you got?

in another thread, I wrote:Do you know that while I've posted here, I've also managed to teach 14 hours a week, tutored 4 hours a week, run a math and reading center in the suburbs 6 hours a week, managed the commute for all three of these jobs, while booking tours for six bands on a regular basis.

On top of that I've managed to rehearse with my band twice a week for two to three hours each night and maintain a wonderful and fulfilling relationship with my lovely lady as well.


you're just mad cause you're wrong again.
are you a man of your word and the law?

or are you the fraud I've said you were all along?

then leave. or be the fraud.



ok! goodbye!




Faiz
kerble is right.

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kerble wrote:
matthew wrote:You seriously need a life.......over forty six hundred posts here in like two years? That's not much of a life. Go tell Russ or W. or Albini to kick me off. Go right ahead. Unlike you, this is not my life and I really won't whine if they do. Sure I'll miss it, but I'm sure I'll get over it. I put conviction behind things that I post about that matter, but I also have fun and play the occasional ruse or prank and chastise people who provoke me. Go ahead. Be a hater and a stoolie, since this board is obviously such a major part of you raison d'etre.


that's the best you got?

in another thread, I wrote:Do you know that while I've posted here, I've also managed to teach 14 hours a week, tutored 4 hours a week, run a math and reading center in the suburbs 6 hours a week, managed the commute for all three of these jobs, while booking tours for six bands on a regular basis.

On top of that I've managed to rehearse with my band twice a week for two to three hours each night and maintain a wonderful and fulfilling relationship with my lovely lady as well.


you're just mad cause you're wrong again.
are you a man of your word and the law?

or ar your the fraud I've said you were all along?

then leave. or be the fraud.



ok! goodbye!




Faiz


All said and done, you work, including commute time MAYBE 40 hours a week, sometimes more and once in awhile ALOT more. I routinely work 50+ a week sans commuting, plus I go to school. So obviously you have plenty of time on your hands. Just saying.

Really. If I've committed a mortal error here on these forums, tell the overseers about it. If you have a personal vendetta, well I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't have anything against you aside from some posts of yours that display a great deal of silliness.

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Um. Matthew. I've never met Faiz personally, but he is friends with pretty much every body else I know. And pretty much all of them tell me what a great and accomodating guy he is. And in the last year I've read two journals of Kerble's trips abroad (India and Spain). So . . . I don't think the guy has much of a problem "getting a life."

Also, regarding his 40-hour work week, I'd expect that the 14 hours he spends teaching require at least 10 or 20 hours of preparation a week. I don't think that one just walks empty-handed into a classroom full of people and expects "learning" to occur magically. Nor do I think you fully understand how time consuming the management of a working rock band can be.

If I've committed a mortal error here on these forums, tell the overseers about it.



I don't know if it's a "mortal" or "venal" error, but I'm pretty sure that everybody already knows that you are a dick.


Dick.

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Linus Van Pelt wrote:Matthew,

1. My little post you liked so little wasn't meant to antagonize you. It was meant to poke fun at this whole thread (and not just your posts in it), and a couple of other threads on the forum. I thought it would inject a little levity into the situation. I really don't see what in it you found personally offensive or antagonizing. I did include your uncle in it, and your savior, but I figured you have kind of a thick skin about that (or you would have left this forum long ago). If it helps, I believe that there was only one Jesus, that he was neither white nor black, and that he was (probably) not gay. Also, I don't want to see your uncle die. I don't know if that means I love him more than you do, or if it means I'm a better Christian than you, or what. Just throwing it out there. So, yeah, I'm almost (but not) sorry if that post offended you, but I assure you that it was not at all meant to.

2. My salutto rachael had nothing to do with antagonizing you. I like rachael and I like her posts and I like to pass kind words to her. It had everything to do with her, and nothing to do with you. If it antagonized you, I'm sorry -- wait, what am I saying? No I'm not. Let me start that again. If it antagonized you, you really ought to work on being less sensitive. It's a hard world out there, and when you act like an asshole, there are going to be some like me who attempt civility (to a certain degree of success - I'm not perfect), and others less patient who will call you out on your bullshit in a more blunt manner. If this is the person you're going to be, and this forum is the kind of place you're going to hang out, then get used to it. You're lucky we don't all post like rachael; you've certainly earned it.

3. Based on your track record of avoiding questions that are actually related to this thread, I find it improbable that you had "some very lengthy replies" in the works. Now, if I had once again taken ten or twenty words of a five-paragraph post to point out one of your innumerable grammatical errors, I have no doubt that you'd have a few paragraphs of bullshit ready right away. But as far as honest engagement of the issue at hand? I call it unlikely.

4. If you're still going to take the coward/liar/both route, and start compiling an "ignore list," I'm proud to be the inaugural member! You probably better throw scott on there, since he doesn't even believe you're for real, and rachael, for obvious reasons. I'm sure DrAwkward would be proud to be a part of it, and kerble. That makes 7, by my count. After that, I'm sure your cowardice would allow you to find reasons to add Johnny 13, stewie, connor... in a few days, maybe your collection will be complete and you'll have no reason to stick around! I'll be sorry to see you go! And when I say sorry, I mean not at all sorry!

5. Or you could save time and just leave now.

I know you read this,
Peanuts


Ok. Peace. I honestly do not care what you personally think of what I write on this forum, but if you make communication difficult, then I'm sorry I can't reciprocate.

It's encouraging that you realize that I'm not some toolshed playing games like whoever is posing as Humphrey Bear or Waltermalling.

I'll accept your explanation for your "salut". I do not however think I did anything to provoke such an outburst from her. If I were in a pub and some man or woman said something like that, I would be taken aback. I can appreciate the less immediate circumstances that a webforum elicits, but nevertheless a little decorum is in order. I don't really mind being called "full of shit" or "" or "irrational" (though I personally try not to resort to such words unless it seems nothing else will work) or anything else along those lines within a discussion as long as there is some sort of reason why I am. What I do resent is being dehumanized as this person did without provocation. She was off the wall here, regardless of anything she might have said elsewhere.

I did have some very long replies to your posts re this thread and the thread you started about Jesus and the shroud and such...I know it sounds easy to say that, but I did. I'd rather be discussing those things than here smoking the peace pipe honestly.

I don't ignore people just to be a jerk. I ignore people who don't want to talk and rather want to simply personally badmouth or worse. If you post in a reasonable way even though it is blunt and even a little sarcastic and harsh, fine.....even if I've told you "ignored" previously. I don't hold grudges unless you do. But I will not deal with people who gang up and personally attack me with coarse langauge. I think in this respect I've been more than fair. I will also say that I cannot and will not answer every question posed to me- because I simply do not have the time to and because not every question has equal value or significance to me; furthermore many "questions" that I've encountered so far here are bullshit and are an attempt to attack me personally.

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