You've quoted me falsely.zorg wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:53 amInteresting take...I don't hear that concern being raised except by the usual unpopular parties (Czechs, Hungarians, German's right wing etc...). To the point where EU instead keep talking about rearming for WWIII (with American weapons, no doubt). In fact the news is all about the Baltics cutting all electrical supply with Russia a week ago.Gramsci wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:52 am The EU’s biggest concern is energy security. They want this to end and get back to normal-ish relations with Russia.This is more what I hear from everybody. And I get it that Ukraine got the shaft here, and they have an absolute right to complain....but why is there this absolute hysteria about a Russian invasion in Europe? I'm old enough to remember the first cold war, and the rhetoric is the same. But based on what exactly? They'd been loudly dicking around about Ukraine since the 80's. I don't know of other such simmering disputes with powers in mainland Europe, other than the ongoing tit-for-tat campaigns to install puppet governments in the usual vassal states, but that is business as usual. I just don't get why a Sweden should be afraid of Russia...besides EU being (now regrettable) friends with the US. That's not to say you should agree with or like the Russians....but doesn't the level of fear seem misplaced and possibly misleading?jimmy spako wrote: I definitely wish Russia wasn't so damn close.
For anybody interested I felt this is a fairly even handed summary of what got us here, published before the whole Trump charm offensive.
That was coming from FM emmanuelle cunt, who lives in Poland, probably in the East from what I remember.
Maybe you should listen to him.
And listen to people from the former republics of the former USSR. And take a look at their history.
