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Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:33 pm
by Colonel Panic_Archive
Over-intellectualizing of anything is a hoot.

I apologize for my presumption about your age. At least I didn't call you 14.

So you seriously wouldn't say that they've been one of the most influential bands since the 80s?

Like I said before, they're not my favorite band, not even close. But I'll definitely acknowledge their influence on pop music.

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:40 pm
by zom-zom_Archive
I have no idea if Sonic Youth has been incredibly influential.
Probably no more than the Minutemen, Big Black, Hüsker Dü, Black Flag, The Replacements ad nauseum.

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:59 pm
by Colonel Panic_Archive
Hehe yeah, now that I look back,

NerblyBear wrote:They are probably the most influential band of the past thirty years.

30 years means 'way back to 1977...

There has been a lot of really original and influential stuff in that period. I'd still put them near the top of the list.

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:08 pm
by El Protoolio_Archive
Colonel Panic wrote:Now I admit, I don't know zom-zom's actual age, but I'm betting he's a good few years younger than I am, if he doesn't recgnize the influence of Sonic Youth on the post punk rock scene.


zom-zom wrote:I'm 48.


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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:38 pm
by Colonel Panic_Archive
Yeah... hell he took me aback wit that one.

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:59 pm
by Flaneur_Archive
If you had read earlier in the thread when he talked about playing a show in NYC circa 1993...

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:14 pm
by STF_Archive
Colonel Panic wrote:I am talking about experiencing post-punk indie rock prior to the popularity of Sonic Youth, and then hearing the difference in the newer stuff that came along afterward.

Without any proper chronological reference points. someone who hasn't had that experience cannot gain as much of an appreciation for the influence they made. Comparing the release dates in the records' liner notes and drawing inferences just ain't the same.



The heck it ain't. I wasn't around when Shakespeare wrote, but I can make a fair estimation of his influence on the English language. Because I was alive and listening to music at the time I observed that Shellac and Slint were influential (loads of bands tried to sound like them), but looking at their influence over time doesn't require that I'd "been there."

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:15 pm
by STF_Archive
STF wrote: ...but looking at their influence over time doesn't require that I'd "been there."


I just would've seen a lot fewer mediocre bands.

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:13 pm
by justinc_Archive
found some interesting interviews w/ the buckys CEO Howard Schultz,
maybe will shine some light on this topic:

http://www.suntimes.com/business/lazare/434863,CST-FIN-lew20.article

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/06/19/

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2007/06/18/daily22.html

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1628191_1626317_1626316,00.html

Schultz summed it up this way: "The Italians understood the personal relationship that people could have to coffee, its social aspect. Starbucks could be a great experience, and not just a great retail store."

Ok, joke s over... FUCK Sonic Youth.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:34 pm
by Mark Lansing_Archive
zom-zom wrote:I'm 48.


I'm NOT the oldest guy on the Forum! Whoo hoo!