mdc wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:43 am

Awesome!

mdc wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:43 am My orange needs tubes and my garnet needs a master volume, so I've been playing through these two traynors for the past few practices and it sounds quite good! The 1x15 is some lower-end ampeg cab, and is a bit farty. But for $550CAD all in (TS50 = $150, TS50B = $400, bass cab = $0), this is a pretty solid sounding rig. I have an old boss PN-2 at the end of my board splitting into the two amps and the panning effect is extremely fun.

You appear to be playing guitar in Canada (which is wrong) instead of playing drums in Los Angeles with me (which is right).

I posted about the Vox AC50cp in the gear you're buying thread - I did wind up getting it, but it had a couple of issues. Nothing major - frequent popping sound that was consistent even without any input. Got lucky and the first preamp tube I replaced solved that issue. Foot switch wouldn't do what it was supposed to - they had given me a single pole switch that didn't do anything, replaced it with the correct one and voila - I have a channel switching quiet amp now.

It's housed in some sort of really nice homemade cab - finished wood instead of tolex, some weird fabric on the front and 2 stains on the exposed wood - you can see the dark brown on the face of the amp and the clear finish on the rest of the cab.

The description is that channel 1 is close to an ac30 and channel 2 is close to a Marshall. This is a lie. Channel 1 does not sound like an ac30 at all, but that doesn't make it bad, it' just that both channels are very dark and very British high gain to my ears. Channel 1 is cleaner, but still gets gnarly if you crank the gain. I would not recommend this amp to anyone trying to get an approximation of an ac30. Channel switched hiwatt/marshall maybe, but this doesn't sound like a classic vox to me at all. Not enough treble. You can get a nice clear distinction between the channels, and the switching is clean, which will eliminate at least 1 OD pedal on the board.

It's going through the Kustom 4x10 on the left, and I might wire it up to the 2 12's in the other vox to see how much that colors the sound. I took the back off that Kustom cab to see if that brightend it up a little - it didn't make any real difference. I'd really like a different 2x12 cab for it, and there's a peavy 2x12 at the pawn shop down the street that I might see if I can hustle out of there cheap to see what difference it makes - I'm not certain that the Kustom was a bass cab design originally, but the 200 watt rating and closed back suggest that's likely what it was designed for.

It's also not as loud as I anticipated for 50 watts - the super reverb seems louder, but that could just be the treble from the super cutting through more - right now they're both always on through an ABY.

Overall, I like it, and it's a very different sounding amp than I've had before, but I need to fuck around with how it takes pedals and what OD's/treble boosts/fuzzes work with it. I have tomorrow and Tuesday off with kids back in school, so I should get some time to fuck around more tomorrow.

eephus wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:28 pm

TylerDeadPine wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:54 pm

Garth wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:29 pm This is an odd post that is going to be more of a hot take right now and an actual review later.

So after a long hiatus of cabinet building, I'm putting together a pair of TL-606 for a fellow cultist. Based on info from other cultists here, we chose an Eminence Deltalite speaker to put in one of the two (the other speaker being more of a traditional clone of the classic EVM-15L that most of us are well-acquainted with. This speaker also comes by way of yet another cultist #thisistheway #notacult).

Anyway, I got the Deltalite in the mail already and was shocked at how light it is. It's literally lighter than the packing it came with & that's NOT an exaggeration. This is no surprise to anyone else who's used neo-magnet speakers but I don't think I've ever had one out where it's JUST the speaker. It's usually been a cab with a neo speaker in it (or in the case of PA: speaker, AMP and cab). After years of SVT and 8x10 and 'heavier is better' mentality, this is still an adjustment even though I've known for a while how much lighter cabinets can be w/ modern builds and the lighter speakers.

Once I get the cabs finished I am really eager to do some sound tests and comparisons and the actual review will come back at that time. I think they're on sale right now though so I'm seriously considering buying a pair just to do it. IDK, maybe that's dumb since I barely gig anymore.

I had 3 TL-606 cabs with EV15s in them. I replaced one of them with a Deltalite and had the same experience as you. I will say that I don't remember what the difference is, as I like the sound so much I don't miss the EV at all. Caveat, we use this cab for Synth. Only holding out for someone to be selling some Deltalites to do my other two cabs, but getting pretttty tempted to just spend the $$ as cheap health insurance

I have the Kappalite 15" in a couple cabs. They're a little tighter and less rumbly in the lows than EVM15L. I think I have mixed one Kappalite with one EVM in my two (!) bass rigs. But maybe not. I don't think about it much, unless I'm carrying one, in which case I'm happy to have the Kappalites.

Verdict: not better than EVs--I will keep my old speakers around--but they're certainly good enough, and it's possible they'll loosen up with time and sound even closer to the EVM benchmark than they do now.

I have a Delta Pro somewhere in something and it's good--I never think about it.

Just want to add to this that I've got a Mesa Road Ready 2x15 that I put two Kappalite speakers in when I first got it over a year ago (it had an original EVM-15L in it and a Peavey Black Widow, both sounded fine) to cut some weight. Took it out of the space for the first time for a show last night, and with new casters, it really wasn't a bear to move. Yeah, I needed a bandmate to help with getting it up a couple of stairs, but it was worth not having to walk back to the van to move a second 1x15 cab.

Those speakers probably shaved ~25 lbs off the total weight. I don't know what it weighed with the old speakers, but it's definitely manageable, and I can't really discern all that much of a difference from the EVMs or Delta Pro 15a speakers I've had in the single 1x15s for years and years.

benadrian wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:39 pm

mdc wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:43 am My orange needs tubes and my garnet needs a master volume, so I've been playing through these two traynors for the past few practices and it sounds quite good! The 1x15 is some lower-end ampeg cab, and is a bit farty. But for $550CAD all in (TS50 = $150, TS50B = $400, bass cab = $0), this is a pretty solid sounding rig. I have an old boss PN-2 at the end of my board splitting into the two amps and the panning effect is extremely fun.

You appear to be playing guitar in Canada (which is wrong) instead of playing drums in Los Angeles with me (which is right).

;_;

EHX Hot Tubes nano - sounds totally great and unlike any other OD pedal I’ve ever had, more like power amp OD than preamp OD, nice bit of sizzle to it and amazing definition across all the strings.

Nico Adie wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:51 am EHX Hot Tubes nano - sounds totally great and unlike any other OD pedal I’ve ever had, more like power amp OD than preamp OD, nice bit of sizzle to it and amazing definition across all the strings.

Hmm, maybe because the volume/tone control are at the end of the circuit rather than earlier on, assuming the nano is anywhere similar to this
https://www.audioservicemanuals.com/e/e ... -schematic

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:58 am

Nico Adie wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:51 am EHX Hot Tubes nano - sounds totally great and unlike any other OD pedal I’ve ever had, more like power amp OD than preamp OD, nice bit of sizzle to it and amazing definition across all the strings.

Hmm, maybe because the volume/tone control are at the end of the circuit rather than earlier on, assuming the nano is anywhere similar to this
https://www.audioservicemanuals.com/e/e ... -schematic

I’m certain that’ll be a contributory factor, along with it being CMOS as opposed to op-amp/transistor driven.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:58 am

Nico Adie wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:51 am EHX Hot Tubes nano - sounds totally great and unlike any other OD pedal I’ve ever had, more like power amp OD than preamp OD, nice bit of sizzle to it and amazing definition across all the strings.

Hmm, maybe because the volume/tone control are at the end of the circuit rather than earlier on, assuming the nano is anywhere similar to this
https://www.audioservicemanuals.com/e/e ... -schematic

Anybody know how similar the new Hot Tubes is to the old?

That and a Les Paul jr bass through an SVT (IIRC) is the god tier sound on this track

I've AB'd the reissue against the original (Kim Gordon's even!) and they sounded 100% identical to my ears and the two other people in the studio.