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Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:15 pm
by johnnyshape_Archive
I saw the film again a while ago on TV. It's not great, but it's not awful. The Gerald Scarfe bits are still grandly OTT, and Bob Geldof spits out the lead role pretty well.

The album is, on the whole, fairly horrible.

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:32 pm
by SecondEdition_Archive
Wow, thought I'd posted about this for sure. Guess I only must've voted.

Anyway, I loved The Wall when I was in high school.

Even then, though, I thought the movie was a gigantic mound of shit, no matter how much I tried to convince myself otherwise. Nothing about that movie is remotely in the range of something you'd want to remember.

Then I eventually realized that the album is also pretty fucking dire as well. Disc 2 is, what, forty minutes of sound effects and Roger Waters wailing? I only count about two good songs in the entire shitpile of the second half. (Those songs: "Hey You" and "Comfortably Numb," and well, okay, maybe "Run Like Hell" and "Nobody Home" on a really good day. Everything else is absolutely unholy shit.) Disc 1 is better, and has more memorable songs, but the entire disc - hell, the entire album - has that feeling of "hey, anyone could be playing on this." It sure as fuck didn't sound like the Pink Floyd of old. It sounded like Roger Waters, Dave Gilmour and a bunch of session men, not Pink Floyd. Fuck that shit. At this point, Pink Floyd weren't a band anymore.

I know Roger Waters thinks this is his masterpiece, but that doesn't mean I have to.

CRAP, wf: 2, and that's coming from someone who still listens to assorted Pink Floyd albums on a semi-regular basis. (It's pretty much limited to the early stuff now, the Syd and early post-Syd years. They were insane live in 1969 or so. That first half of Ummagumma still kicks ass for me.)

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:49 pm
by The MayorofRockNRoll_Archive
alex maiolo wrote:You really wanna slam me? OK, I think Haircut 100 has a few good songs. There, THAT is embarrassing.


Love Plus One has a good hook.

The Wall...I dunno...like a lot of the consensus, blew my mind when I was fourteen. Now...meh...dull...

What I do have to admit to liking is Dark Side of the Moon synced up to Wizard of Oz. They did that at the Alamo Drafthouse in Austin. Creepy fun.

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:50 pm
by Nina_Archive
Fuck all ya'all's crap votes.

PF with Waters is not crap. PF without Waters is not PF.

The Wall is not crap. I still listen to this album with some regularity. I would still birth R. Waters offspring as well.

Yup, not crap.

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:55 pm
by SecondEdition_Archive
Nina wrote:Fuck all ya'all's crap votes.

PF with Waters is not crap. PF without Waters is not PF.

The Wall is not crap. I still listen to this album with some regularity. I would still birth R. Waters offspring as well.

Yup, not crap.


I am relatively shocked. Based on what I knew about your music tastes, I was sure you would pan this.

Glad I'm not a betting man.

Still, though, the second disc? Really? That's good?

(Floydnerd note: What's your favorite Floyd album?)

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:19 pm
by Nina_Archive
SecondEdition wrote:
Nina wrote:Fuck all ya'all's crap votes.

PF with Waters is not crap. PF without Waters is not PF.

The Wall is not crap. I still listen to this album with some regularity. I would still birth R. Waters offspring as well.

Yup, not crap.


I am relatively shocked. Based on what I knew about your music tastes, I was sure you would pan this.

Glad I'm not a betting man.

Still, though, the second disc? Really? That's good?

(Floydnerd note: What's your favorite Floyd album?)


Yeah, well.... (hangs head)

I have two older brothers, naturally I was influenced by their musical tastes. I remember shortly after the movie came out, the high school they went to had a big showing of the film in the gym one night and after the movie they had a laserlight show. Thinking back on it now, that was kind of strange actually! Where the hell did they get like 500 bean bag chairs for this thing? Very strange.
Anyways, I was like 10 or 11, my parents let me go with my brothers to this thing. It was MONUMENTAL in it's influence on me and hence, my taste in music.
The second disc, (actually sides three and four) happen to be my favorite, yeah.
Favorite PF album? Wow. I really love Piper at The Gates of Dawn, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother, Animals. Huge fan of Syd's solo stuff as well. Very difficult to pick a favorite. Lots of early live shows rank in with some of my favorites as well. Thankfully, these are all widely available with the interwebs now, which is a good thing in my opinion.
For the record, I am not a big fan of David Gilmore.
I took sides, Waters won.
He was awesome when I saw him at the Hollywood Bowl for The Dark Side of the Moon show last year, as he always is live.

Sorry to disappoint you, SE!

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:03 pm
by SecondEdition_Archive
Nina wrote:
SecondEdition wrote:
Nina wrote:Fuck all ya'all's crap votes.

PF with Waters is not crap. PF without Waters is not PF.

The Wall is not crap. I still listen to this album with some regularity. I would still birth R. Waters offspring as well.

Yup, not crap.


I am relatively shocked. Based on what I knew about your music tastes, I was sure you would pan this.

Glad I'm not a betting man.

Still, though, the second disc? Really? That's good?

(Floydnerd note: What's your favorite Floyd album?)


Yeah, well.... (hangs head)

I have two older brothers, naturally I was influenced by their musical tastes. I remember shortly after the movie came out, the high school they went to had a big showing of the film in the gym one night and after the movie they had a laserlight show. Thinking back on it now, that was kind of strange actually! Where the hell did they get like 500 bean bag chairs for this thing? Very strange.
Anyways, I was like 10 or 11, my parents let me go with my brothers to this thing. It was MONUMENTAL in it's influence on me and hence, my taste in music.
The second disc, (actually sides three and four) happen to be my favorite, yeah.
Favorite PF album? Wow. I really love Piper at The Gates of Dawn, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother, Animals. Huge fan of Syd's solo stuff as well. Very difficult to pick a favorite. Lots of early live shows rank in with some of my favorites as well. Thankfully, these are all widely available with the interwebs now, which is a good thing in my opinion.
For the record, I am not a big fan of David Gilmore.
I took sides, Waters won.
He was awesome when I saw him at the Hollywood Bowl for The Dark Side of the Moon show last year, as he always is live.

Sorry to disappoint you, SE!


No disappointments at all.

Though I can't believe you like the second disc.

check your pm's.

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:19 pm
by Nina_Archive
SecondEdition wrote:No disappointments at all.

Though I can't believe you like the second disc.

check your pm's.


By the way, when Rogers did the Hollywood Bowl show last year, Snowy White was with him. He was just as fantastic as ever.

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:27 pm
by SecondEdition_Archive
Nina wrote:
SecondEdition wrote:No disappointments at all.

Though I can't believe you like the second disc.

check your pm's.


By the way, when Rogers did the Hollywood Bowl show last year, Snowy White was with him. He was just as fantastic as ever.


totally jealous.

Album, film, concept : Pink Floyd - The Wall

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:45 pm
by dontfeartheringo_Archive
I have this dream that one day I will be rich enough to put together a bang-on Jimmy Buffet cover band, just to hear them play "Comfortably Numb" in the style of "Margaritaville."

I just want to hear that soaring David Gilmour solo played on marimba.

Yeah.

I'd pay for that.

Just to watch the looks on people's faces.