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Why?

you a big fan of 8" speakers and overpriced gear?

I used the 1-15s at a show last night. They seemed just as loud as my 6-10, and they definitely cut through more. I didn't feel as though I was missing any lows.

Also, I put on new strings, so I really should try my old cab with the fresh strings.

Ben Adrian

The exchanges here, and my lack of experience with the bass (I'm a guitar player), have got me retooling some habitual thinking. I'm trying out a 1X15" cab as soon as I get the amp to power it...

rayj wrote:The exchanges here, and my lack of experience with the bass (I'm a guitar player), have got me retooling some habitual thinking. I'm trying out a 1X15" cab as soon as I get the amp to power it...

For me, i think it's really the difference between AMPEG 6-10 or 8-10 and Deitz/Theil Small style 1-15.

The Deitz 1-15 sounds more agressive to me than my old Ampeg 1-15 and other 1-15s I played. Consequently, the Ampeg 8-10 and 6-10 sound a lot smoother and with more apparant low end than even the old Ampeg 4-10 I owned. The SWR 4-10 used for a bit had NOTHING on the Ampeg gear. It just sounded think and pokey with no pleasing low end, to me.

Ben Adrian

Anybody got one of those home made EV TL606? how heavy are they?

benadrian wrote:

rayj wrote:The exchanges here, and my lack of experience with the bass (I'm a guitar player), have got me retooling some habitual thinking. I'm trying out a 1X15" cab as soon as I get the amp to power it...

For me, i think it's really the difference between AMPEG 6-10 or 8-10 and Deitz/Theil Small style 1-15.

The Deitz 1-15 sounds more agressive to me than my old Ampeg 1-15 and other 1-15s I played. Consequently, the Ampeg 8-10 and 6-10 sound a lot smoother and with more apparant low end than even the old Ampeg 4-10 I owned. The SWR 4-10 used for a bit had NOTHING on the Ampeg gear. It just sounded think and pokey with no pleasing low end, to me.

Ben Adrian

Yeah, I'm thinking of putting together one of those Deitz cabinets. I haven't heard one other than at live shows as of yet...everyone I know seems too involved in their SWR/Bass Magnifier thing, which to me sounds a lot like the ol' GK through a crap cabinet. Not that you can't do something with that, but...well, you know.

my two cents:

i play in dropped a, so low end is extremely important for me. and i've played through ampeg's 4x10, 6x10 and 8x10. i've also used 2x15s (not ampegs though), 4x15s and a 1x18 reflex.


for low end and a full bodied tone - i really feel strongly that the 8x10 and 2x15s are the way to go. the tones going through the 4x10 and 1x15s just didn't feel fully fleshed out. there was a whole world of sound missing.

personally, i prefer the 8x10s - i find the lows to be brutal - but there is tons of definition in the tone. it's not a muddy, farty mess. even though i'm in dropped A, i want clarity in my notes. I personally found the 15s and 18s to really be lacking in this dept. That's not to say they aren't good - but it just felt way too mid/bass heavy. They can get low, sure - but the lows didn't feel very defined to me.

Personally, i'm not too stoked on the 4x10/1x15 combo. instead of a best of the both worlds kinda deal yr getting two half-assed deals.

Here's something i've been wanting to do - 1 8x10 and ampegs 1x18. that's gotta give you both clarity and monster low end. I tried it with the reflex 1x18 and i didn't care for it.

as far as what's easier to move? i think people love to bitch about how big the 8x10s are - but i find it way easier to deal with than the 4x10s. i have a bad back, and found it way more painful to move the 4x10s as you have to bend down lower to tilt it back - also, to load it into a van you have to actually pick it up - the 8x10 just kinda tilts back and falls right into it. it's really less of a big deal then you'd think - it just takes up a fuck load of room in the van. now imagine 2 8x10s.


food for thought - bands w/ serious low end. the bassist of burning witch uses 2 acoustic 360 set ups. for asva in the studio he had 2 360s and svt w/ an 8x10. and that shit is low, heavy, and slow like molasses.
sunn o))) uses 2 8x10s, khanate has done a mix - running 2 8x10s and 1 8x10 w/ a 2x15.
Om uses 2 4x15s. 2!!!



-joshua...