I'd rather like to see My Bloody Valentine live.

This is surprising to me.

I don't even own any of their records.

Hmmm. Interesting. Anyway.

Scott, Tommdyski
I LOVE polvo too. And it is true you don't have to stand on your head while playing guitar behind your back to make for a good concert. Look at slayer clips on you tube. There is not that much of a stage movement (but tons of head movement, yeah) there, but a lot if those clips, well, slay. But the performance in particular clip is simply piss poor. It's not about the fact they're not throwing their bodies frantically to the rhythm, it just completely lacks any positive vibe.
I hope they simply had a bad day.
And discussions about this video made me thing about Steve hating this sort of stuff.

emmanuelle cunt wrote:And discussions about this video made me thing about Steve hating this sort of stuff.

what sort of stuff? boring indie rock bands?
I totally agree

they're BOTH boring.

Ace wrote:they're BOTH boring.

Oh Ace. Are you sure? No love for My Bloody Valentine? Not even Isn't Anything (fuck the first two or three tracks, to be sure)? Not even "Several Girls Galore"? Is there nothing to be done about this?

tocharian wrote:

Ace wrote:they're BOTH boring.

Oh Ace. Are you sure? No love for My Bloody Valentine? Not even Isn't Anything (fuck the first two or three tracks, to be sure)? Not even "Several Girls Galore"? Is there nothing to be done about this?

Can't say I am very open to MBV. They just sound like the Jesus and Mary Chain to me, and I hate them both.

I'm pretty sure i'm about to get 50 people telling me they don't sound a thing like J&MC, that happens a lot to me. Whatever, they're both overrated and headache inducing, I fail to see the "beauty" in this sort of music.

scott wrote:it's r-tarded

In English class, maybe 8th or 9th grade, my teacher was adamant that in all our book reports or discussions about the books we'd read that we always use present tense. "The story is alive as you experience it, etc." I feel the same way about music, old or new, but this reunion wave gives me the creeps.

These bands made the music they made in the environment it was made in. If I listen to that recording, it's still alive the same is it was the day it was recorded. If I pay lawyer-dollar to go see these bands play the same tracks 15 years later--out of context and as strangers--then that music is dead. That music becomes a tired, lifeless cliche.

I read the Slint reviews, I have friends who saw the Pixies, and it seems to be the trend. Music should exist to create more life. When bands play without that aim, why bother?

I own the new Dinosaur Jr. record and I really enjoyed it. They reunited and decided to create some more. Rather than reunite TJL, Yow chose to sing for a new band in Qui. I saw and enjoyed them recently, and they gave me a new and different experience.

The two reunions up for discussion--no thank you. Sure, MBV went out "on top" but if you want to laugh about Chinese Democracy, then Kevin Shields is your man. As for Polvo, Shapes was a turd colossus. Some bands are meant to die--let them.

Save hollow nostalgia for the nursing home.

falsedog wrote:I can completely understand (as a type designer) why it takes for fucking ever for them to create anything - tiny alterations over time have a huge impact on the feel of the overall thing.

from a tape op interview, i get the impression loveless didn't take unbelievable amounts of time and money because they were tweaking the swirly textures everybody loves. it's dumber than that... shields says he did all the cool swirly textures really quickly, and it was the vocal overdubs that tooksomething like a year and nearly $1 mil. apparently they'd go into a studio, do a zillion vocal takes they were never happy with, switch studios and repeat. he said between all of the different studios they may have gone through 50 engineers. then what they ended up doing is taking their favorite vocal take for a particular song, mixing it as the loudest vocal track, and then taking a bunch of runner-up takes and mixing them lower. i like the product but the process is crazy stupid.

I barely knew a thing about MBV when they were around. But I saw Buffalo Tom play at the Vic in I dunno 1992 or 95 or something - they were great - and then it turned out that MBV was the headlining band, and HOLY TRANSCENDENT JESUS MONKEY was THAT an INCREDIBLE SHOW. Tangible force.

And then I started enjoying their records.


Polvo? I'll go with Scott's ref. of Tutku saying that they sound broken, or correctly broken or whatever. It just never hooked me.

I like Polvo better, but I'd be more interested in seeing MBV. I've heard for years how sickeningly loud MBV were and I think I would enjoy that.

I'd go see either if I had the chance. Even if Polvo were typically sloppy. Presumably if any band bothers to reuinte you can expect to see a band that is tight and well-rehearsed.