what was the concept?

The thing is, nobody is really that pure when it comes to money. Many bands (the quality of these bands are questionable, but still) aren't in it for the money, then they go and sign to major labels. When you start making it a publicly supported band, you open the industry up for stuff like

CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP!

Think about it. Coca-Cola, looking for a way to advertise and reach out to the kids, can tempt an up and coming band with a large amount of money for a large tour, as long as only Coke is available at the shows, and if the Coca-Cola logo is prominently featured. Sure, it seems harmless, but who knows what could come of this?

What's preventing this from happening now? I don't have a fucking clue. I'm too tired to be really making a cohesive arugment. I expect the above paragraph to be riddled with grammatical errors, typos, and inconsistencies.

Intern_8033 wrote:

I expect the above paragraph to be riddled with grammatical errors, typos, and inconsistencies.

Or that you posted in the wrong thread?

FUCK!

Sleepy time...

As far as all of the lawsuits and anything related to file-sharing are concerned... I don't see anyone being able to effectively fine or penalize a large number of individual users or downloaders. I think it's a crock of shit and it seems like a scare tactic... The only way to put a major dent in file-sharing, or to stop a significant amount of it would be to go after the programs that provide us w/ the capacity to do so. Like Kazaa, Xolox, etc. etc. There are millions of people sharing/downloading files at any given time on these programs. It seems highly unlikely that you (as the individual user) would be on the recieving end of a lawsuit or fine. It seems foolish to go after someone for utilizing a program, that exists legally and provides consumers w/ certain functions. I think it is fucked for anyone to overlook this fact and go after the user. That's like saying, hey.... here's the internet... you can use it and look up some things... but don't spend to much time on it... or you can only visit 20 sites daily... and if you exceed that... we sew your ass! Fuck that! If they don't like volume of people and files being exchanged or they think it's getting out of hand... do something about it. Make new programs where downloads cost a nickel, or new programs where you are limited in certain ways. You see, the programs exist and we have the freedom to use them. No limits... It would be enfringing on our rights to fine use for using them, for they are provided to us. It's so fucked... but I don't think they will be able to do a damn thing on the individual level... Maybe one day they will make the programs more strict or limit them in some way. But for now... I will harvest the fucking bounty of songs that are available to me. And I will buy the fucking albums after I hear something I like. [/quote]

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/05/00 ... 188&tid=99



apparently the RIAA is offering "amnesty" to file sharers if they do a whole bunch of crap and notarize it and send it to them.


Talk about a bunch of douchebags. I'd like to see how many letters of consent they actually recieve

Does anyone know of any bands who have successfully set up an independent "web store" where you could purchase & download their songs without going through a distributor? I wonder how difficult this would be? I think this is the way of the future for indie artists. That, and selling self-produced music at live shows.

I think a good model would be:

$0.50 to download a single track
$3.50 to download an album
$5-6.00 to buy a physical album (at a show, or mail-order)
$8-9.00 OTC retail

I don't know how realistic this is, but it "feels" right.

SchnappM wrote:Well, the thing is, I download music in addition to buying CDs, and I appreciate the opportunites that Soulseek gave me to listen to stuff I would never be able to hear otherwise (live bootlegs, rare tracks, out of print albums).

However, I know several people who download ALL of their music and don't buy ANY. These people give file-sharers like me a bad name.

I don't do that file-sharing stuff but most people I know do.
Downloading music is a very healthy way to as tmidgett said to educate yourself. It helps prevent you from buying a bad record that you might have bought simply because you like the band. If the record is good enough, then by all means go and buy it. It is also a way to determine if the hype is justifiable. Most of the CDRs full of MP3s are all out of print or rare and hard to get records and I see nothing wrong with that.

ps. Sorry to bring up such an old post but I was just looking for bootleg stuff and saw this. Sorta the same thing in a way. Oh, and I still buy too many CDs so I doubt I'm hurting the industry.

whoa

Angry_Dragon wrote:I don't do that file-sharing stuff but most people I know do.
Downloading music is a very healthy way to as tmidgett said to educate yourself. It helps prevent you from buying a bad record that you might have bought simply because you like the band. If the record is good enough, then by all means go and buy it. It is also a way to determine if the hype is justifiable. Most of the CDRs full of MP3s are all out of print or rare and hard to get records and I see nothing wrong with that.

ps. Sorry to bring up such an old post but I was just looking for bootleg stuff and saw this. Sorta the same thing in a way. Oh, and I still buy too many CDs so I doubt I'm hurting the industry.

Three words:

BUMP OF CHICKEN.

Yeah, like I'm gonna find that at the record store.
Bump Of Chicken.
Wow.
I feel so 23 again.