Re: Recommend a cheap ribbon mic

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TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:20 am You have to get into a mindset that you are going to fail over and over again and that's fine because failing is part of the fun. You say to yourself, failing is learning. You know how to fail. You are a loser. Your dog doesn't even love you. You'll always be a pathetic piece of shit with a receding hairline.
You just described the same mental processes I go through any time I try to do just about EVERYTHING: music, social interaction, bicycle, posting on the internet

Re: Recommend a cheap ribbon mic

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Garth wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:31 am
TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:20 am You have to get into a mindset that you are going to fail over and over again and that's fine because failing is part of the fun. You say to yourself, failing is learning. You know how to fail. You are a loser. Your dog doesn't even love you. You'll always be a pathetic piece of shit with a receding hairline.
You just described the same mental processes I go through any time I try to do just about EVERYTHING: music, social interaction, bicycle, posting on the internet
:( I'm sorry. On the bright side you might be equipped to build really good ribbon mics

Re: Recommend a cheap ribbon mic

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TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:02 pm
Garth wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:31 am
TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:20 am You have to get into a mindset that you are going to fail over and over again and that's fine because failing is part of the fun. You say to yourself, failing is learning. You know how to fail. You are a loser. Your dog doesn't even love you. You'll always be a pathetic piece of shit with a receding hairline.
You just described the same mental processes I go through any time I try to do just about EVERYTHING: music, social interaction, bicycle, posting on the internet
:( I'm sorry. On the bright side you might be equipped to build really good ribbon mics
Whoa! I didn't realize that you were actual building the ribbons too. Holy shit! I would never in a million years attempt something that need that much patience and grace.

BTW, I don't know either of you guys, but you are loved!!
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I did a DIY re-ribbon once, out of necessity, after I damaged the stock ribbon on one of those giant ribbon mics that were popular for modding in 2004-ish. I used foil that I removed from a pack of Camel Lights or something. Soaked the foil in water, which loosened the paper liner. Rubbed the paper off with my finger. Sliced it to width with an exacto and corrugated it on a wide-toothed comb. It was noticeably thinner than the stock ribbon, and had better high-end response afterwards.
I don't think my hands are steady enough to try that again.

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Ryan Zepaltas wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:34 pm
TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:02 pm
Garth wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:31 am

You just described the same mental processes I go through any time I try to do just about EVERYTHING: music, social interaction, bicycle, posting on the internet
:( I'm sorry. On the bright side you might be equipped to build really good ribbon mics
Whoa! I didn't realize that you were actual building the ribbons too. Holy shit! I would never in a million years attempt something that need that much patience and grace.

BTW, I don't know either of you guys, but you are loved!!
I thought anything less wouldn't be punk. And thank you, it helps.

(in reality I wanted to learn how to re-ribbon a mic for inevitably breaking one because of the aforementioned punkness)

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I was trying out some new stuff in the basement and having trouble keeping my ham fisted ride playing out of the floor tom mic so I tried my MXL 144 on the Floor tom. Up kinda high for a tom mic. I placed it high enough that the side nulls were parallel with the edge of the ride. It sounds great and there is almost no ride bleed in the floor tom mic. I've never really found anything I liked this cheapo ribbon on until but it is pretty good for this. I ordered another for the rack tom to see if it will keep crash/hat out of that mic. They cost about the same as a SM57 so might as well make them drum mics.
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Kniferide wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:56 pm I was trying out some new stuff in the basement and having trouble keeping my ham fisted ride playing out of the floor tom mic so I tried my MXL 144 on the Floor tom. Up kinda high for a tom mic. I placed it high enough that the side nulls were parallel with the edge of the ride. It sounds great and there is almost no ride bleed in the floor tom mic. I've never really found anything I liked this cheapo ribbon on until but it is pretty good for this. I ordered another for the rack tom to see if it will keep crash/hat out of that mic. They cost about the same as a SM57 so might as well make them drum mics.
Along this line...

I tend to buy into that the results Michael has wound up with speak for the "Nuts..."/"Bolts..." of what he is doing.

He posted this a while back in a "Non-Cardioid Patterns..." thread on the T.O.M.B.
Reading "Recording the Beatles" was a huge turning point for me in this department. Soon after seeing the diagrams of John and Paul singing into opposite sides of a Figure-8 mic while listening to a speaker positioned in the mic's null, I started using figure-8 extensively to get out of logistical jams. The first time I tried it was when I was asked to include a mandolin player in a basic-tracking session after I had already set everything up. The only floor space available was near the drums, so I placed the mic so the drums would be in the null, the mandolin on one side of the 8, and a gobo on the other side of the 8, NOT between the mic and the drums. I was amazed by how much isolation was achieved by using the null position and blocking spillage into the other side of the 8. I've gotten excellent results using fig-8 for drum overheads when loud amps are also in the room.

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