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Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:13 pm
by dontfeartheringo
penningtron wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:16 pm
dontfeartheringo wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:39 pm
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These new edibles are SHIT.

While Evans ranks 3rd of the 3 major drum head brands for me, I do really like the Calftone stuff.
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3. Evans
4. Profit!!

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:30 am
by penningtron
dontfeartheringo wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:13 pm 1.??
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3. Evans
4. Profit!!
:lol: Get that swag!

I do want to try a coated G12 on snare at some point. I've really only been burned by coated G2s, which can sound dead right out of the box.

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:19 pm
by dontfeartheringo
Finally had a loud rock band rehearsal with my new Breadwinner hammered brass snare. I had an Evans G2 lying around so I threw that on. Remo Hazy Ambassador reso and Puresound Blasters, 20 strand snares.

I love this snare drum. It's got punch without too much ring (due to the hammering, I reckon). Because it's brass, it has a low fundamental and a nice crack at the same time. I put half a moon gel on the batter head and I'm sold. It's got a ton of thwack, which is exactly what I wanted out of a new drum.

Hooray.

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:57 pm
by twelvepoint
dontfeartheringo wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:19 pm Finally had a loud rock band rehearsal with my new Breadwinner hammered brass snare. I had an Evans G2 lying around so I threw that on. Remo Hazy Ambassador reso and Puresound Blasters, 20 strand snares.

I love this snare drum. It's got punch without too much ring (due to the hammering, I reckon). Because it's brass, it has a low fundamental and a nice crack at the same time. I put half a moon gel on the batter head and I'm sold. It's got a ton of thwack, which is exactly what I wanted out of a new drum.

Hooray.
pics? I really really don't want to accumulate more drums, but hammered brass would be *chef's kiss*

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:02 pm
by dontfeartheringo
twelvepoint wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:57 pm
dontfeartheringo wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:19 pm Finally had a loud rock band rehearsal with my new Breadwinner hammered brass snare. I had an Evans G2 lying around so I threw that on. Remo Hazy Ambassador reso and Puresound Blasters, 20 strand snares.

I love this snare drum. It's got punch without too much ring (due to the hammering, I reckon). Because it's brass, it has a low fundamental and a nice crack at the same time. I put half a moon gel on the batter head and I'm sold. It's got a ton of thwack, which is exactly what I wanted out of a new drum.

Hooray.
pics? I really really don't want to accumulate more drums, but hammered brass would be *chef's kiss*


That's my actual drum on the left, there. The lighting makes it look like the chrome parts are just basic silver chrome, but they're just your normal heavy triple-flange hoops and toob lugs.

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:34 pm
by twelvepoint
Those are beautiful, and the hammering looks intense. I'll need to follow that account.

Do you follow Adrian Kirchler, an Italian drum maker? He tends to create more in the orchestral world, but his stuff is lovely, and he does his own rims, lugs, throwoffs and snares. Just insane workmanship.

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 am
by penningtron
Any opinions on bronze snares? Don't ask why I'm looking, but a few aluminum snares I like (which, honestly, I could be happy with forever sound-wise) are also offered in bronze. They look really sharp, but I need a reason beyond looks to justify the extra expense.

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:21 am
by mdc
DO YOU THOUGH

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:46 am
by penningtron
mdc wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:21 amDO YOU THOUGH
As someone who's never payed more than $250 for a snare this is already uncomfortable territory :?

(they're priced fairly for what they are, made in small batches by fellow musicians, blah blah)

Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:30 am
by dontfeartheringo
Bronze is like a Super Supra, in my experience, unless it's "Bell Brass" (which is bronze, btw and is like 3mm thick). The Hambro is less than half that at 1.3. The thinness gives it a lower fundamental and more sensitivity (more overtones because of the increased mass over Al). Bronze is slightly louder than aluminum and the hammering keeps down some of the whine of a heavier metal.

Supra has great tone but isn't loud enough? Bronze is the way to go.

I find brass to be more sensitive even than bronze, btw. If you're not hearing enough of your ghost notes and rubs, brass acts a little like a compressor in that regard. My new hammered brass is the drum I've been waiting for. All my little drummer-y moves can now be heard from 25 feet away.

I am on a constant seesaw between the thick wallop of thin wood snares and the volume and projection of heavy metal snares. I guess that's why I own [redacted] snare drums.

OH, here's a thing I discovered, Penningtron- That keystone acro I got from you? I was on the phone with another drum nerd buddy and he was telling me those are going for stupid money these days (the word is out on Acros, finally) and I said "Yeah, but they're still Acrolites. There's a million of them."

"Not the keystone ones, they have brass hoops."

I grabbed a magnet off of the refrigerator went out to the garage, and lo, so it was. Brass hoops! (which explains why it has a louder and clearer cross-stick than my Supra.)
twelvepoint wrote:Do you follow Adrian Kirchler, an Italian drum maker? He tends to create more in the orchestral world, but his stuff is lovely, and he does his own rims, lugs, throwoffs and snares. Just insane workmanship.
I do follow AK and I drool over some of the work he does. I love those early-20th Century Black Beauties with all the engraving and stuff. Getting one from AK is probably exactly the same cost as getting a vintage one but without the hassle of a 100 year old snare throw. However, stupid expensive. If I ever need a massive tax writeoff, I'll get one.