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Re: Alien vs Aliens
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:49 pm
by ChudFusk
Charlie D wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:03 am
rsmurphy wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:48 amNow, I really want to see 3: Alienses.
It's worth your time but be warned: There is terribly dated nineties CGI. As long as you can stomach that, the story is pretty good.
I thought the xeno in 3 was a puppet in front of a blue screen. In fact I'm certain of it, as I just saw a short video behind the scenes of the puppeteering.
Re: Alien vs Aliens
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:37 pm
by Bluegum LaBloat
The cracks in the alien's head at the end when it gets doused in cold water is the only cgi, but yeah it is awful. And you're right it's all puppeteered/composited. There's also a deleted scene where they tried putting a latex suit on a greyhound, but that looked too awful even for this movie's fx.
Re: Alien vs Aliens
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:53 pm
by speedie
I think they're both great, depends on the mood.. Do I want a slow burn or do I want wise cracking space marines shoot em ups?
Alien by a nose though.
Re: Alien vs Aliens
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:53 am
by emmanuelle cunt
Yeah, I thought Alien in Alien 3 is an early example CGI too, but apparently it's the composing part which gives that awful "it doesn't belong in this frame" look.
It always seemed to me like the idea for the script had to be straight forward - after dozens/ hundreds of aliens and people with machine guns we go back to one alien and people with no guns, so learning about how troubled the development of it was surprising, I think Fincher had to direct some scenes to use the already built sets, but without much of an idea how it is going fit in to the story and it really shows in the second half of both assembly and director's cut - the assembly is still a better film but as somebody wrote on the old PRF "it dissolves into 'Corridors: The Movie' at some point and never recovers.
I still like it overall though, visually it's stunning.
Re: Alien vs Aliens
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:04 am
by Gramsci
I’m not starting a thread on Alien Romulus because it was one of the worst films (script wise) ever made.
I cannot express how much I hated every minute of this film.
Re: Alien vs Aliens
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:50 am
by emmanuelle cunt
Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:30 pm
rsmurphy wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:48 am
I've never seen any other movie in the franchise post-Aliens except for Prometheus which I kind of liked because it made me think about a lot of stuff. It also looked real nice. But this thread got me to thinking about what happened to Newt.
Start of Alienses: their pod crash lands, everyone who survived at the end of Aliens except Ripley is killed, bummer.
Alien 3 had an interesting gestation. For some reason they thought hiring Vincent Ward would be a good idea. Vincent Ward really wanted to make a movie set in a 10th century monastery or some shit, with monks. He got offered the Alien franchise and said, hey, what about if the alien was in a 10th century monastery, with monks? The execs said "what? no"
And Vincent Ward said but oak panelling. Shafts of sunlight in a dusty library. The execs said focus man, this is ALIEN.
Vincent Ward said ok, but what if it's set on a MONASTERY SPACESHIP, hear me out, and the monks have all vowed off technology, and so their spaceship is made of wood and looks like a 10th century monastery? In space?
And the execs said "OMG what a brilliant twist, this is why we hired you, auteur director Vincent Ward". Then the coke wore off, and they said "no, wait, what? I mean you're fired. Argh. Fuck"
Solid chuckle, cheers.