numberthirty wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:46 am
Who is doing the deciding on what amounts to "Landmark..."?

People who care. That could be critics, fans or both.

A good place to look is also a certain post-WWII generation of non-Western composers or performers who came relatively late in life to a more authenitic approach to things rooted more in their cultures after studying the European / American avant-garde.

Jose Maceda is a good example.





There are probably more good examples of this in pop music etc. too.

ChudFusk wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:03 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:34 pm

ChudFusk wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:42 am

Yeah, he didn’t really blossom until he did that collab with Trent Reznor

Not sure if this is uninformed sarcasm or obscure humour, but I don't get it.

Close; it’s sarcastic humor. Do I really have to explain it for you?

I think you're gonna have to, because that answer hasn't cleared anything up.

Curry Pervert wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 8:15 pm

ChudFusk wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:03 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:34 pm

Not sure if this is uninformed sarcasm or obscure humour, but I don't get it.

Close; it’s sarcastic humor. Do I really have to explain it for you?

I think you're gonna have to, because that answer hasn't cleared anything up.

OK, here's the post again:

ChudFusk wrote:

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:34 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:35 pm Bowie.

Slogged away for years in various incarnations before making any kind of impact.

Yeah, he didn’t really blossom until he did that collab with Trent Reznor

The joke is in the idea that Bowie didn't make any impact until "I'm Afraid of Americans" which most fans would find to be a ridiculous belief.

Robert Pollard/Guided by Voices - the story (I think) was that he was going to call it quits with Propeller, as he was in his mid-30s at the time. And that was before Bee Thousand and Alien Lanes.

Sleaford Mods (previously mentioned)

Edit - can also argue that the classic line-up’s best material was during their reunion nearly 20 years later

amar wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 2:15 am Sleaford Mods (previously mentioned)

Anyone fancy a stab at explaining this one? All the good stuff is in their first six years or so. Or are they lads who were in loads of bands previous?

ChudFusk wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:45 pm The joke is in the idea that Bowie didn't make any impact until "I'm Afraid of Americans" which most fans would find to be a ridiculous belief.

Ok, I thought there might have been more to it that I wasn't getting.

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:11 am

amar wrote: Sleaford Mods (previously mentioned)

Anyone fancy a stab at explaining this one? All the good stuff is in their first six years or so. Or are they lads who were in loads of bands previous?

Vocalist was born in 1970, I imagine the other fella with the hat is of a similar age.

Tom Waits

seby wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:38 amTom Waits

You think? He was what, mid-20s when Nighthawks at the Diner came out, and that's a fine record.