cursedby11 wrote:Also, one guy said his name was Todd trainer and that he was being expected. He was, of course, fat and the furthest thing from todd. What are the chances that i actually knew who todd trainer was?????

you sure he didn't say Pete Traynor?

toomanyhelicopters wrote:

cursedby11 wrote:Also, one guy said his name was Todd trainer and that he was being expected. He was, of course, fat and the furthest thing from todd. What are the chances that i actually knew who todd trainer was?????

you sure he didn't say Pete Traynor?

You sure he didn't say Chuck Traynor?

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toomanyhelicopters wrote:

cursedby11 wrote:Also, one guy said his name was Todd trainer and that he was being expected. He was, of course, fat and the furthest thing from todd. What are the chances that i actually knew who todd trainer was?????

you sure he didn't say Pete Traynor?

You sure he didn't say Chuck Traynor?

Chuck Taylor? Never heard of him!

same wrote: i'm sorry to come off as some high ground taking prick, but everybody has bad personality traits, from being prejuciced to accepting and employing fashion trends.

...to lecturing strangers on the internet about whom they may or may not voice their opinions concerning. An interesting application of your "live and let live" policy.

I think we can all agree that bands like Killers, Franz Ferdinand, Strokes, Bloc Party, Interpol, ect. suck. But they are not hipster bands. Hipsters don't like those bands. Those are bands that people in high school or people with bad college radio shows like. Really, I listened to Radiohead when I went to high school in the suburbs. And I'm not a hipster because I wear jean shorts and study engineering. These bands are played on MTV and clear channel, so really, how could a hipster like them if everyone knows about them?

You have to dig a little deeper.

It helps to be from a hipster place, and be a part of some hipster scene. Like Williamsburg or Montreal. So hipster bands would include Animal Collective, the Arcade Fire, Gang Gang Dance, Broken Social Scene, Out Hud, etc. Whoever mentioned the Velvet Underground was right on -- hipsters need older bands like this to namedrop to prove how true their tastes are.

The whole irony is right on -- but I guess that means Lou Barlow is going to Rock and Roll Hell for his ironic cover of a Ratt song.

I really like a lot of the bands that hipsters like -- for one that I don't like I submit to you the Firey Furnaces.

Quatermain wrote:

same wrote: i'm sorry to come off as some high ground taking prick, but everybody has bad personality traits, from being prejuciced to accepting and employing fashion trends.

...to lecturing strangers on the internet about whom they may or may not voice their opinions concerning. An interesting application of your "live and let live" policy.

i suppose the contradiction you're accusing me of is inherent in the phrase "live and let live" as any time you use it (outside of quoting someone) you're giving advice, or as you put it, lecturing. so, i apologize for using a poorly crafted phrase. however telling someone they're wrong for thinking other people are wrong isn't so spurious and hypocritical as you would make it seem. for example, it's ok to tell people that it's wrong to be racist and/or wrong to think that you are somehow above people you don't know based on broad sweeping generalizations.

Linus,

I was slow going to the Van Halen Party myself, but once there, I really liked Van Halen One and parts of the next four records, basically the David Lee Roth years, Unchained on Women and Children First is very rocking in my opinion, Van Hagar on the other hand is ROT to my ears.

An older friend of mine, whom is in his seventies used to call the hipsters of his day kick's people, as in: only in it for the kicks. There were not artists but more hangers on. I like that, kick's people...

I think djanes1 is correct in his description of true scensters.(i use scenster and hipster interchangeably). The whole concept is silly really. there's always some fad that hits each decade and you'll always have people leeching onto this fad and they will adapt to it accordingly. I can't wait for the hipster party tonight.

There is indeed something irksome about people yapping away passionatley about their musical tastes when the undercurrent is 'I dig dangerous music and will be seeing lots of it at Coachella' or 'I am authentically my own unique individual as per my taste in obscure music, like U.S. Maple and Oxes.'

I blame no one.

Having a passion for music is a good thing, even if your taste is bad. It's best whent he worst music gets the most exposure relative to music I consider 'better.' Shellac is more fun at The Last Show or ATP than they would be at Reading or Austin City Limits, god forbid.

By the by, the most insufferable hipsters are the ones who worship 90 Day Men AND the Mars Volta. By my reckoning.

Every high kick on stage is an imaginary kick in the face to an anti-semite.