jeff fox wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:04 am

cakes wrote: This is unsustainable. The things I worry about is not punishing the GOP for their abuses. How do we go forward with people who've crossed the line intentionally? How do we even reconcile with family and neighbors who cheered it on? This will take a generation or more to recover from, internally and internationally.

Absolutely. My family is pretty much ruined. My infrequent visits are now awkward, quiet and sad. It's a horrible feeling. Tempted to reach out to my nephew in art school because there's NO WAY he thinks like that. And maybe track down our family friends from growing up to see where they stand? Not that it would change anything. If they're gonna be icy towards their own son, I doubt their peers could have any influence.

You should definitely reach out. Maybe he feels isolated as well.

cakes wrote:How do we even reconcile with family and neighbors who cheered it on?

Fuck 'em. If anything I've learned over the past years of this worldwide disgrace is I can now be just as affectless and need to be for my survival. That said, words and apologies mean jack without undertaking strategies to undo the universal hurt their vote and unyielding support has caused. Show me how you are sorry don't tell me. I had to end the friendship of the first friend I made on this planet; a person I once thought of as kind, gracious, and caring. He still wants to be friends - or at least he did right after the election - but I can't do it. The thing is his mom was an immigrant from Mexico and his dad was a blue-collar white laborer. Nicest 'rents ever, both dead now, and I miss them. I'm sure they would be horrified. Possibly not. I'd cut them off too if needed.

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"I Will Survive" is so much bigger than Gloria Gaynor. The best example I can find is the version from The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert with its bewitching blend of didgeridoo and uplifting aboriginal chanting. To my ears it's more about the playing, musicians, instrumentation, and arrangements than it is about the singer. Gloria lucked out on getting the call but anyone who could sing would have rode that song to infamy. I love Erasure's interpolation in "I Love to Hate You," I dig the invigorating outro of Creme D'Cocoa's version; the jazz-inflected alchemical chording at Aretha's turn (rest of it is kinda mid); hell, I can even fuck with Cake's cover. The most important take on Trump's Kennedy Center brouhaha is his laser-focused task on cruelty and taking the joy from any culture that isn't eurocentric. As for Gloria Gaynor a boomer is gonna boomer, I just thank Dino Fekaris and Freddie Perren for creating a timeless song and will never dissever my soul from the soul of it.

losthighway wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:07 am

enframed wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:02 am

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 3:46 am

I like how it’s assumed I was thinking about you at all.

Haha. Not me. I thought you were sharing with us. So you were knowingly sharing only with those who have twitter. Elitist!

I don't have Twitter either. Maybe he thought he was sending a DM? Definitely wasn't thinking of me either.

Glad to see this thread is drooling out of both sides of its mouth this morning!

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:11 am

losthighway wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:07 am

enframed wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:02 am

Haha. Not me. I thought you were sharing with us. So you were knowingly sharing only with those who have twitter. Elitist!

I don't have Twitter either. Maybe he thought he was sending a DM? Definitely wasn't thinking of me either.

Glad to see this thread is drooling out of both sides of its mouth this morning!

Did you mean to tweet that?

The most optimistic song I know. Brilliant.



Keeps me going sometimes.

zircona1 wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:13 pm Have any of you all lost or shunned friends and/or family over politics in the last 8 years?
Was there a particular instance that caused you to ignore them or cut them out of your life?

I have a few relatives I've unfollowed on FB, that's about it.

the answer is still no.
but i am lucky my family cares about each other. we try to keep in touch. the older generation takes care of the younger, as we should.

This is how we stop the murder.

goddamn right

Expected? YES. Still nuts? YES!

Lu Zwei wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 3:43 am Expected? YES. Still nuts? YES!

Everyone who's got a functioning brain already knows this. Everyone else is pretending that this is normal. Just like everything else Trump is doing.