TRIFECTA wrote:I like iron and wine and elliott smith and jose gonzalez
as far as acoustic shit.

I also like melvins and craw a lot!

Marsupialized wrote:

TRIFECTA wrote:I like iron and wine and elliott smith and jose gonzalez
as far as acoustic shit.

I also like melvins and craw a lot!

SecondEdition wrote:
You sound like a Frank Zappa fan.

Don't get the impression that I don't like quirky, acoustic, nonaggressive music. I love a good chunk of Syd Barrett's solo stuff, for instance. What I really don't like is preciousness, which is probably what turns me off to, say, Marc Bolan's acoustic stuff with Tyrannosaurus Rex, which is probably a bigger influence on freak-folk than just about anybody has admitted.

Skronk wrote:Jose Gonzalez is miles above the current freak folk scenesters. Banhart writes good bossa nova tracks, but I can't play a full album by him. Not crap, with a few waffles.

Acoustic music can be excellent, but current popular acts are hardly the ones to judge it by.

H-GM wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:
You sound like a Frank Zappa fan.

I don't get it; maybe it's because I'm not a fan of Zappa. Do Zappa fans hate acoustic music?

H-GM wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:Don't get the impression that I don't like quirky, acoustic, nonaggressive music. I love a good chunk of Syd Barrett's solo stuff, for instance. What I really don't like is preciousness, which is probably what turns me off to, say, Marc Bolan's acoustic stuff with Tyrannosaurus Rex, which is probably a bigger influence on freak-folk than just about anybody has admitted.

Oh man, I find it very difficult to stomach Syd Barrett's solo music, same goes for Marc Bolan. Love Pink Floyd, love T. Rex, hate all the quirky, cutesy, acoustic, hippie shit. Can't stand it. Maybe that's why I don't like Devendra. My good friend drives me insane playing Syd or Marc solo. Syd does this one song about an octopus that can drive me to kill.

SecondEdition wrote:

H-GM wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:
You sound like a Frank Zappa fan.

I don't get it; maybe it's because I'm not a fan of Zappa. Do Zappa fans hate acoustic music?

I said that because you hated music. It seemed like a particularly Zappa thing to say. (I was listening to "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" at that time.)

The only Zappa I've ever listened to was Joe's Garage and I've also seen Baby Snakes. Still not a fan. I don't get it. Don't claim to get it. And don't get it in spite of not getting it. If you'd like to recommend something for me to experience I'm all eyes.

H-GM wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:Don't get the impression that I don't like quirky, acoustic, nonaggressive music. I love a good chunk of Syd Barrett's solo stuff, for instance. What I really don't like is preciousness, which is probably what turns me off to, say, Marc Bolan's acoustic stuff with Tyrannosaurus Rex, which is probably a bigger influence on freak-folk than just about anybody has admitted.

Oh man, I find it very difficult to stomach Syd Barrett's solo music, same goes for Marc Bolan. Love Pink Floyd, love T. Rex, hate all the quirky, cutesy, acoustic, hippie shit. Can't stand it. Maybe that's why I don't like Devendra. My good friend drives me insane playing Syd or Marc solo. Syd does this one song about an octopus that can drive me to kill.

See, I think all of those criticisms apply to Marc Bolan's acoustic music, and that's why I have such trouble listening to it, but I don't think they applies to Syd Barrett at all. I love Syd's stuff, for reasons which sometimes bother me. I sometimes wonder if I'm just listening to it because of the "crazy guy" factor and because of the fact that this guy was in Pink Floyd. "Octopus" is not cutesy, or quirky, or hippie shit in any way - it's completely insane, and somehow it's catchy, and it's catchiness only makes it scarier. The way the guy sings the chorus scares me - this guy meant what he was singing, in ways that the rest of us couldn't understand. Because he was insane? Probably, yes. And what does that say about me for listening to it? I don't know.

The fact that Syd Barrett can still inspire this kind of debate in me, and still have this kind of influence on me (which I'm not at all sure is good) means that his music is far more important to me than Marc Bolan's is, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Also, "quirky," "cutesy," "acoustic," (at times) and "hippie shit" are all adjectives that can just as easily apply to The Flaming Lips, Randall, and I don't see you being driven to kill by their music.