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Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:18 am
by Eating Noddemix
El Protoolio wrote:
Eating Noddemix wrote:$12 an hour is pretty good pay in my book.


Is your book titled "Living In Poverty"?


All I'm saying is I almost always earn less than that.

My expenses are pretty low though so I could live fairly comfortably on $12 and hour, yeah.

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:20 am
by dansoderburg_Archive
i earn slightly under 12 dollars an hour.

i afford rent but i live in a slum. i have no health insurance, and i often eat mac and cheese. but hey i can pay my 200 dollar a month student loan payment, and payments on the car i had to buy when my former car was stolen from our parking lot. does that count as poverty?

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:19 am
by primate fly heavyweight_Archive
i don't earn anything.

i'm not dead yet.

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:17 pm
by iembalm_Archive
Here's the rest of that article, which is even more brutal. I especially like the statement from dude's employer after the Supreme Court refused to consider his case.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080705/benefit_battles.html

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:38 am
by Colonel Panic_Archive
Unbelievable. Why even have insurance, if they won't cover your expenses when you need it?

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:03 am
by sack of smashed assholes_Archive
I have never called in sick to work. well once, when I was 16, I wasn't actually sick though, just wanted the day off.

I work until the early hours in the morning. I don't get regular sleep. I sleep during the day. I'm still up, and have yet to go to bed. yeah, it sucks, and it does cause stress, I'm always tired, and worrying about stupid shit. my days go so fast now it's unreal. I'm reducing my hours because I need a break for awhile. I need a new job soon.

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:41 am
by Ligh mo mhuceoil cléimhte_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:The ERISA law allows companies to refuse health benefits, and only face a lawsuit for the return of premiums. That's quite a loophole. Hard to believe that this situation occured by accident. I wonder which piggish legislators sold their souls to corporate lobbyists to slip that in?
AP july 5, 2008 wrote:Employers use federal law to deny benefits

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Dying of cancer, Thomas Amschwand did everything he was told to make sure his wife would collect on the life insurance policy he had through his employer.

"He was obsessed with dotting every `i' and crossing every `t'," Melissa Amschwand-Bellinger recalled about her husband, who died in 2001 at age 30.

But Spherion Corp., the temporary staffing company where Amschwand worked, told Amschwand-Bellinger she would not receive any of the $426,000 in benefits she believed she was due. When she went to court, Spherion succeeded in getting her lawsuit thrown out. The Supreme Court on June 27 refused to review the case.

Amschwand-Bellinger received a refund of the few thousand dollars in insurance premiums she and her husband dutifully had paid. The total, she said, would not cover the costs of his funeral.

The story has played out often under the federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act. Designed to protect employee benefits, the law has been used by employers as a shield against suits.

Federal appeals courts, interpreting Supreme Court decisions dating to 1993, consistently have said companies that offer health, life and retirement benefits under ERISA cannot be sued for large amounts of money, or damages. Instead, they can be sued only for typically smaller sums such as Amschwand's insurance premiums.
That's brutal, gangsterish madness.


This made me sick to my gut. So much so that I even had to email them. Don't suppose it would do much good of course. I am angry

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:53 pm
by Colonel Panic_Archive
Yeah I've heard of that before. They've been doing that kind of thing for at least 15 years. It's disgusting and ghoulish.

I suppose this is the kind of activity one can expect when our legal system grants profit-driven corporate entities the same rights as real flesh-and-blood citizens. The concept of government "by the People, for the People" has been almost completely lost. Legislators are economically bound to act in favor of whatever interests pay the highest dividends, which means the interests of large corporations over individuals.

Americans - the hardest working people in the western world

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:13 am
by Ifan Saer_Archive
I remember these two brothers from Texas I worked with at a translation agency years ago. Fuck if they didn't work for five people each.