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killing joke is better than each of these bands

Just to clarify (because, in hindsight, clarification seems appropriate), I don't dislike The Fall. The "not good...really" statement was actually a lame MST3K reference (forget the episode, but one of the bots has somebody drinking balsamic vinegar).

BClark wrote:[false]killing joke is better than each of these bands[/false]

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It was a toss-up between The Fall and The Pop Group, but I had to vote for Mark Stewart and Co.

Ideally, it would be: 1) The Raincoats, 2) This Heat, 3) The Pop Group but you have to choose with what's in the poll. Not fair...

The Fall are the best band ever. I will not back up this opinion with any type of data.

I love them all.

In order:
Go4 is my favorite on this list. One of my very favorite bands.
The Fall just makes me happy.
Then Wire. All phases of their career.
PiL - mainly the first few records.
Pop Group - underrated, along with the Slits and Young Marble Giants.
Joy Division - hard to put them last, and I still love them.

Also, Magazine, Siouxsie, and any other band John McGeoch played with.

-A

alex maiolo wrote:I love them all.

In order:
Go4 is my favorite on this list. One of my very favorite bands.
The Fall just makes me happy.
Then Wire. All phases of their career.
PiL - mainly the first few records.
Pop Group - underrated, along with the Slits and Young Marble Giants.
Joy Division - hard to put them last, and I still love them.

Also, Magazine, Siouxsie, and any other band John McGeoch played with.

-A

Well, you know I do sound a bit like Jon King when I sing...maybe if I'm in Chicago we should get a Go4 Halloween tribute together? (this will probably never happen, but...you know.)

I like all of those bands except for Magazine, whom I find to be laughably pretentious and impressed with themselves, and I don't know Siouxsie too well. Not sure if I want to.

SecondEdition wrote:

alex maiolo wrote:I love them all.

In order:
Go4 is my favorite on this list. One of my very favorite bands.
The Fall just makes me happy.
Then Wire. All phases of their career.
PiL - mainly the first few records.
Pop Group - underrated, along with the Slits and Young Marble Giants.
Joy Division - hard to put them last, and I still love them.

Also, Magazine, Siouxsie, and any other band John McGeoch played with.

-A

Well, you know I do sound a bit like Jon King when I sing...maybe if I'm in Chicago we should get a Go4 Halloween tribute together? (this will probably never happen, but...you know.)

At our local, annual charity cover bash, we did Go4 the first year, back when they were still broken up. Some of the same people who did the Birthday Party cover later, in fact.
I'd do it again in a sec, but the 11 hour drive would make practices a pain.
See you in Kentucky???

I like all of those bands except for Magazine, whom I find to be laughably pretentious and impressed with themselves, and I don't know Siouxsie too well. Not sure if I want to.

Magazine can be pretty bad, but I just love John's playing so much that I get past the rough bits. All of their output combined make a stellar 6 song EP or really good LP, if you get my drift.

As for Siouxsie, the MeGeoch period is fantastic. Check out Juju and Kaleidoscope. If you want two songs as a sample, get "Spellbound" and "Christine." His playing, Budgie's unREAL drumming, and Steven's soild, perfect bass playing totally jell on those tunes. If you don't like them, this is not your band. I know a lot of what you listen to, however, and I think you might get into it.
From there, check out the record John Valentine Caruthers played on, Tinderbox. The production is a bit heavy in an 80's way, but again, the songs and playing are great. The guitar lines in "Candyman" and "Party's Fall" and some of the more inventive post punk patterns I can think of. He's the only guy who could have replaced McGeoch successfully, so they made a good choice. I think he's ridiculously underrated. He's done little else, other than a semi-industrial band called Clock Dva, and that's a shame. I stole from him unapologetically. Well, a lame version at least.

-A

alex maiolo wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:

alex maiolo wrote:I love them all.

In order:
Go4 is my favorite on this list. One of my very favorite bands.
The Fall just makes me happy.
Then Wire. All phases of their career.
PiL - mainly the first few records.
Pop Group - underrated, along with the Slits and Young Marble Giants.
Joy Division - hard to put them last, and I still love them.

Also, Magazine, Siouxsie, and any other band John McGeoch played with.

-A

Well, you know I do sound a bit like Jon King when I sing...maybe if I'm in Chicago we should get a Go4 Halloween tribute together? (this will probably never happen, but...you know.)

At our local, annual charity cover bash, we did Go4 the first year, back when they were still broken up. Some of the same people who did the Birthday Party cover later, in fact.
I'd do it again in a sec, but the 11 hour drive would make practices a pain.
See you in Kentucky???

Erm...maybe not. Whoops. Though it is possible, through circumstances long on improbability.

Magazine can be pretty bad, but I just love John's playing so much that I get past the rough bits. All of their output combined make a stellar 6 song EP or really good LP, if you get my drift.

Yup. I think an EP made up of "Shot By Both Sides (single version)," "Motorcade," "The Light Pours Out Of Me," "Feed The Enemy," "Cut-Out Shapes," and "Permafrost" would be one utterly brilliant recording. Too bad they couldn't keep it hard for forty minutes.

As for Siouxsie, the MeGeoch period is fantastic. Check out Juju and Kaleidoscope. If you want two songs as a sample, get "Spellbound" and "Christine." His playing, Budgie's unREAL drumming, and Steven's soild, perfect bass playing totally jell on those tunes. If you don't like them, this is not your band. I know a lot of what you listen to, however, and I think you might get into it.
From there, check out the record John Valentine Caruthers played on, Tinderbox. The production is a bit heavy in an 80's way, but again, the songs and playing are great. The guitar lines in "Candyman" and "Party's Fall" and some of the more inventive post punk patterns I can think of. He's the only guy who could have replaced McGeoch successfully, so they made a good choice. I think he's ridiculously underrated. He's done little else, other than a semi-industrial band called Clock Dva, and that's a shame. I stole from him unapologetically. Well, a lame version at least.

-A

That's a recommendation...I will have to check these out. Two Siouxsie songs I have heard: "Hong Kong Garden," which I completely hated, and "Tattoo," which was absolutely great. Are the songs you recommended more similar to "Tattoo"?