Dave/Eksvplot wrote:

the$inmusicisallmine wrote:TLJ over Slint.

The Lizard Jesus?

Am I the only one that listens to Tweez more than Spiderland? I like Spiderland better, of course, but (as some people mentioned before) I really have to be in a certain mood to listen to it.

I don't think Spiderland is boring, but I can see how one might think so. If I'm not in the right mood, it's very boring. If I'm in the right mood, it's amazing.

I can listen to Goat anytime.

I feel a bit lame for admitting this, but I'd really like to know Steve's choice between these two albums because he's praised them both quite vehemently.

that damned fly wrote:

Get dog costumes wrote:The limitation of The Jesus Lizard was that they played only rock songs. That's not a problem, since they were a rock band. But if you tread the same narrow ground forever, you are certain to write an unremarkable tune like "South Mouth" now and then.

so, i guess the cut tape aspect of the song does nothing for you.

unremarkable my butt.

Yeah, I never noticed a "cut tape" aspect of the song, so I can safely say it does nothing for me. It sounds like a repetitive blues-rock song with good drum and bass playing, and it's completely blown out of the water by "Lady Shoes."

mr. arrison wrote:Yes, Slint's once grand entry into the halls of mr.arrison's rock hall of fame were soon tainted by the legions of sub-par copycats ("boat-rock", "mogwai" etc.) and then destroyed by seeing the "legends" perform live, appearing bored out of their skulls 14 years later. All of this has the effect of watering down the original masterpiece.

I halfway agree with your second point: Slint at the Metro on a Friday in 2005 was the best show I've ever seen. I was in a state when I walked out of that room. The second time, in Chapel Hill last summer, was one of the worst show experiences I've had. I didn't have a bad time, but something was just wrong with the whole event.

Your first point about their legacy is way off. Slint has a great legacy. Forget about mediocre bands that tried to copy them; it's stupid to hold dime-a-dozen bar bands against the Rolling Stones or Puddle of Mudd against Zeppelin. Consider the real legacy: what the musicians went on to do. Papa M and Evergreen are great in their own right, and the last two For Carnation records are almost as creative as Slint and much more extreme. What all this has to do with Spiderland is, you can hear these three real different threads in that album. It's just full of cool ideas.

I love that it takes four people to play "Don, aman." Sometimes there are about nine people playing in a For Carnation song, and you can barely hear music.

Ace wrote:The Lizard Baby Jesus?

TB

Both these albums have but not one hair out of place. BUT... I like the Lizard more, so they win.

I'd have to go with the Jesus Lizard because I've had more experience with them. Don't get me wrong, I'm really starting to get into Slint, it's just that the Jesus Lizard are a butt-kicking band that totally kick arse, whereas Slint is that bleak, extraodinarily talented band that released one good record and then disbanded.

It's like when Slint played at the Pitchfork music festival. It's not like they lacked charisma or stage presence, but it was never like those totally awesome TJL concerts, where the intensity was immense and David Yow was absolutely out of his brains.

The Jesus Lizard for me, for now...

I have a funny feeling Slint will surpass The Jesus Lizard as my more favourite band. But I like them both.